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  Reply # 197904 25-Feb-2009 07:17
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Heard first hand that the NZ distributor doesn't expect the PVR frimware until at least mid March. Apparently the "factory" hasn't even started on the NZ version yet and is working on orders from other countries first. 


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  Reply # 197914 25-Feb-2009 08:28
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hbk:

Heard first hand that the NZ distributor doesn't expect the PVR frimware until at least mid March. Apparently the "factory" hasn't even started on the NZ version yet and is working on orders from other countries first. 




/headdesk

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 197937 25-Feb-2009 10:23
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openmedia: Yes we have a bleeding edge terrestrial service and there are numerous bugs in the STBs, but there are a lot of variables involved.
That's true, but the bleeding edge factor is only a reasonable excuse for a limited period. More than 10 months after the launch of our digital terrestrial service there are numerous issues with many of the STBs available - it's easy to form the impression that several manufacturers have been lazy or greedy or both.

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  Reply # 198025 25-Feb-2009 16:36
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Hinko:
InspectorGadget:
Hinko: I'm in Wellington.  A regional problem(s) is not yet excluded.

Lars said they could not reproduce the problem in the Auckland region.  Anyone got it happening in Auckland? 


That's bollocks.  I'm in Auckland and I have dropouts regularly.  I doubt they even tried.


Can I ask that you call Lars Telephone (09) 817 5105 (9am-5pm Monday-Friday)
or email him sales@freeviewshop.co.nz with your phone number. 

He certainly seemed interested to progress the issue.

Please let us know how you get on.


  Well, I take that back about not trying.

 After my conversation with Lars, I actually wish I had bought my box off him.  He is genuinely interested in gett ing this sorted, and is keen to get details of symptoms and equipment being used.

  It appears that my audio drop outs are similar to, but slightly different to those which others have been experiencing.  Others are getting them more frequently than me, but I am using brand spanking new kit which might explain some of the differences.

  I encourage anyone else experiencing this problem to get in touch with Lars, as the more info is available the easier it will be to diagnose the issue and get it sorted.  If you have this issue, it is in your interest to contact Lars


hbk:

Heard first hand that the NZ distributor doesn't expect the PVR frimware until at least mid March. Apparently the "factory" hasn't even started on the NZ version yet and is working on orders from other countries first. 




    March fopr the PVR update could well be optimistic, but it is a wait and see thing.  I think that we knew this anyway.  Interestingly, Lars mentioned that the ET boxes are also being developed for the Russian market.

  I'm guessing that provided that the Russian system uses similar broadcast standards (eg MHEG5, H264 etc) the vast majority of the code base could be reused for other markets (eg NZ) with a bit of translation of the GUI.  Assuming this is the case, the NZ version should follow fairly quickly afterwards.

  Just guessing though.

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  Reply # 198057 25-Feb-2009 19:24
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Although we are belly-aching about our various STB's and their curious quirks, all this is on the assumption that the signal we are receiving at our antennae is unwavering and faultless. We all know that TV3 is the poorest of the channels, why is that? How do we get feedback to the FreeView content providers and what is the forum for broadcast quality discussions? Does anyone know where or how? Thanks.

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  Reply # 198085 25-Feb-2009 20:51
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JJM: Although we are belly-aching about our various STB's and their curious quirks, all this is on the assumption that the signal we are receiving at our antennae is unwavering and faultless. We all know that TV3 is the poorest of the channels, why is that? How do we get feedback to the FreeView content providers and what is the forum for broadcast quality discussions? Does anyone know where or how? Thanks.


Well I'd be guessing a bit, but TV3 is the only 1080i channel. Pretty sure that TVNZ only broadcasts in up to 720p. So that being the case I have assumed that TV3s signal streams out more data. My guess about the problems with the ET is that it cant always cope with the increased data/memory processing and starts cracking up. I still hold a vague hope that a software upgrade may improve things somewhat (very vague hope).

Borrowed another ET box off a friend. Apparently mine (crack ups every 30s or so) was going ok at his place. Havent had a 'full' report yet - so status still subject to change. His box is certainly breaking up far less than mine - maybe every 10 minutes or so(when running at my place).  Now the only other variable I know of (apart from the box) is that he still has the September software installed.

So is my ET box a dud or is it software or ???????

Wish I'd bought a Zinwell - who cares if they run hot - It would be a usefull heater in the winter!




Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself - A. H. Weiler

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  Reply # 198138 26-Feb-2009 08:16
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Right now I believe that the crystal set radio I built in 1958 was more reliable than this ET box - even if I did have to occasionally cut another whisker off of my cat's face to keep it going!

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  Reply # 198142 26-Feb-2009 08:23
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JJM: Although we are belly-aching about our various STB's and their curious quirks, all this is on the assumption that the signal we are receiving at our antennae is unwavering and faultless. We all know that TV3 is the poorest of the channels, why is that? How do we get feedback to the FreeView content providers and what is the forum for broadcast quality discussions? Does anyone know where or how? Thanks.


I have a brand new antenna, brand new cabling and the installer tested it and said the signal was very high.

Analogue UHF channels like Prime look crisp, no ghosting.

Other Freeview HD boxes I've borrowed/tested with have had no problems.


It's not the signal.

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  Reply # 198146 26-Feb-2009 08:33
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I have a brand new antenna, brand new cabling and the installer tested it and said the signal was very high.

Analogue UHF channels like Prime look crisp, no ghosting.

Other Freeview HD boxes I've borrowed/tested with have had no problems.


It's not the signal.

Amen to that.

Can we put the signal to bed as frequently NOT the source of the ET digital audio problems?

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  Reply # 198153 26-Feb-2009 09:16
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Hinko:
Amen to that.

Can we put the signal to bed as frequently NOT the source of the ET digital audio problems?


Well not really. If the ET reseller is adament that the issues are signal related, then that may well be the case. What it means is though, that the signal is not good enough for the ET. You guys are confusing this with "you have a weak/dirty signal".  Just because the ET fails in a particular location and a Zinwell works, doesn't mean that the issues aren't signal related....it just means the ET needs a better (perhaps perfect) signal to perform properly.

Or it's not signal related Tongue out

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  Reply # 198155 26-Feb-2009 09:25
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If the ET reseller is adament that the issues are signal related


Who is the adamant reseller referred to here?

It is not Lars at the Freeviewshop. 

Two people are on record on the list with experience that he is a reseller who seems intent on improving the ET firmware offering.

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  Reply # 198157 26-Feb-2009 09:34
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As an owner of a better than most ET box (It seems) - I have started noticing pixellation and audio dropouts seem to be common place now on other devices probally because I am looking for the issue more - AKA the cricket last nite on Sky - Now these aren't a major pixellation issues - eg every 20 sec like some users are experiencing - But it seems that sometimes we are highly critical of the ET box.  Maybe I'm just lucky.

I am in chch with LOS to Sugar loaf - I have installed a new aerial (Gizmo w/out a booster) - previously didn't have one - And canabilised my Sky dish (Not used) and used their/my cabling to feed the signal into dining room - where it is then split to the 3 TVs. I ran one 10 m length of RG5 cable (I know I should of used RG6 sheiled etc etc - but it was free) and have perfect analogue TV.  Now I am not an installer and I know my handi work is bit rough - So maybe it points back to the problem where the signal is too strong/volatile for the Sensitive ET box.

Have noticed audio dropouts did improve with F/ware updates - But still could be better.

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  Reply # 198161 26-Feb-2009 09:55
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Hinko:

Who is the adamant reseller referred to here?

It is not Lars at the Freeviewshop. 

Two people are on record on the list with experience that he is a reseller who seems intent on improving the ET firmware offering.


Nooo...I'm talking about the infamous Pete.

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  Reply # 198162 26-Feb-2009 10:00
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Ah Pete - Almost missing his racist bad english rushed replies -

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  Reply # 198174 26-Feb-2009 10:27
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smac: Just because the ET fails in a particular location and a Zinwell works, doesn't mean that the issues aren't signal related....it just means the ET needs a better (perhaps perfect) signal to perform properly.
Yep, either it's too good for it, not good enough for it or it's just not related.

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