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Topic # 26642 29-Sep-2008 09:34
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This was announced today:


Chinese Television joins Freeview


New Zealand viewers are set to benefit from the arrival of ChineseTV8 on Freeview|HD channel 28. The channel will launch in early October.


ChineseTV8’s engaging programme line-up includes news and current affairs from mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan, popular drama series, variety shows of diverse formats, documentaries with an Asian emphasis and a wide range of Asian focused `infotainment'.


Steve Browning, General Manager, Freeview says Chinese TV8 is an exciting addition to the current array of content available on Freeview|HDTM,  which was launched in April 2008 and is available to 75% of New Zealand homes.


‘There are approximately 150,000 ethnic Chinese in New Zealand and almost 75% of those citizens live in the greater Auckland area.  Given that ChineseTV8 content will be broadcast predominantly in Mandarin we think there will be a strong demand for it and we’re delighted to have it on our platform,” he says.


“And in the next couple of weeks we’re releasing our latest batch of quarterly figures which will reaffirm the fact that Kiwis (throughout the country) want access to free digital TV. More than 120,000 households (over 280,000 people) had already gained access by the end of June this year,” he adds.


Henry Ho, CEO of World  TV Limited, which is responsible for ChineseTV8 and various other Asian media channels, is equally enthusiastic about the imminent arrival of the channel on Freeview|HD.

“We firmly believe that Freeview is the next generation platform for broadcasting in New Zealand and we’re partnering with them because it will help improve our reach, our quality and our proposition. It is a very exciting development for the Chinese community, for our business, and for all New Zealanders,” he says.


ChineseTV8 joins an ever increasing list of Freeview|HD channels which are available via digital terrestrial (via a UHF aerial) including  TV ONE, TV2, TV3, C4, Maori Television, TVNZ6, TVNZ7, TVNZ Sports Extra, Parliament TV, tvCentral (Waikato/BOP only), Radio New Zealand National and Radio New Zealand Concert.





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  Reply # 167878 30-Sep-2008 00:50
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Well this should help achieve two things!

1; Help Chinese to integrate into New Zealand society along with Chinese only shop groupings!

and

2; Put yet another rubbish channel onto Freeview to encourage people to change to digital.


Now they can be enthralled watching Chinese TV along with Parliament, 6 and on again off again Sport extra!

Watching Freeview is like reading a suburban newspaper, snippets of interest among a plethora of rubbish!

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  Reply # 167886 30-Sep-2008 06:26
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Where is TRACKSIDE & PRIME ????  I can't even read or speak Chinese let alone understand it.Undecided "New Zealand viewers are set to benefit from the arrival of ChineseTV8" Undecided Well I'm a New Zealander and I don't see any benefit??? Oh well... good for the Chinese community I guess. UndecidedWhat other minority groups can we please on Freeview while the rest of mainstream NZ get stuff all or have to wait for something exciting to happen?

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  Reply # 167891 30-Sep-2008 07:49
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NZRobin: Well this should help achieve two things!

1; Help Chinese to integrate into New Zealand society along with Chinese only shop groupings!

and

2; Put yet another rubbish channel onto Freeview to encourage people to change to digital.


Now they can be enthralled watching Chinese TV along with Parliament, 6 and on again off again Sport extra!

Watching Freeview is like reading a suburban newspaper, snippets of interest among a plethora of rubbish!


I actually think Parliamant TV is a valid use for a Freeview channel. The fact it has low ratings is irrevelent, it's the fact it allows us to view live coverage of our parliament, something any democracy should be able to do. The fact nobody is ever there and they act like kids when they are is now plainly obvious!

Freeview is a replacement for our existing analogue TV. It already meets this objective which is to offer existing analogue channels via DVB-T and DVB-S. 

It's not a Pay TV platform and is not a replacement or competing product for Sky/TCL as many people seem to think when they compare Sky & Freeview.

What do you think Freeview should have on it?




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  Reply # 167897 30-Sep-2008 08:38
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What do I want to see on freeview, well some new programming would be nice!

I mean take this press release from TVNZ

"TVNZ chief executive Rick Ellis said a new channel with the working title News 24 would be the first to launch as news, information and sports were high priorities for viewers. But he said it would require only “incremental resources”.

“We have a huge amount of material, obviously, that is edited down - in the main to the six o’clock bulletin - that will find a new home on TVNZ News 24. So the incremental resources required are relatively modest.”

About 70 per cent of the programming on the new channels would be rebroadcasts of TV One or TV 2 shows, but Mr Ellis expected little impact on the existing channels."

70% of two new channels is reruns. no wonder they are having to attract other "niche" channels to help pay for it, I mean yeah great technical ly, but in terms of content there is simply nothing new to watch.


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  Reply # 167900 30-Sep-2008 08:46
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It's fine saying you want "new programming" but exactly what new programming do you want?

If TVNZ were to launch another 24/7 channel what would you want on it? Design a schedule for a day with what you would like. You never know who's reading this!

If you're a news junkie TVNZ7 is a great channel with a lot of content such as World's Best which we don't see elsewhere. BBC do some brilliant stuff with Panorama that used to screen on TV1 but was culled. It's good to see it back.


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  Reply # 167949 30-Sep-2008 11:10
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  I mean yeah great technical ly, but in terms of content there is simply nothing new to watch.


You have summed it up with that. Freeview is a replacement for Analogue TV, so in threory it only needs to broadcast the same channels as are currently available. But it has added new content and channels we have not had before, yes we may not want to watch them but they will find audiences in time. and we will also get more new channels.  I hope sooner rather than later.

Prime will eventually move to Freeview HD....it will have to when analogue is switched off. Prime not being on Freeview HD now is Sky's doing and not tvnz, media works or freeviews fault.

Chinese TV will be a good edition and it was something I was expecting after seeing Chinese TV on my world travels in most countrys and free to air.


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  Reply # 168130 30-Sep-2008 20:22
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If Freeview is simply a replacement for analog then why bother as analog does that job fine already.

We want Freeview because we want something resembling what other developed countries have. That is, choice! Watching a rerun of "It's in the bag" is not choice but a gap filler.

While I can understand Parliament TV being there, why IS '6' there?

I expect new channels similar to C4 but with an emphasis to other quality programs that are only sporadically in the main channels. Perhaps a home and news channel with DIY, food, family health etc perhaps interspersed with doco, current affairs and news. Or a channel that has a higher mix of Natural wonders such as NZ 'Deep South" or perhaps more SciFi stuff mixed in with programs like megastructures and self interest programs like gone fishing.

Filling the space up with the lowest common denominator like we have at the moment is not putting the technology to good use in my opinion.

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  Reply # 168144 30-Sep-2008 20:50
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NZRobin: If Freeview is simply a replacement for analog then why bother as analog does that job fine already.



Analog doesn't do the job. That's why it's being replaced. It was fine when people had 14" 4:3 CRT TV's and didn't find a bit of ghosting and lines through the picture. We are now in a 16:9 world and large screen TV's where high bitrate high defintion 5.1 digital content is now the norm. Analog also couldn't deliver 100% nationwide coverage like Freeview does.



We want Freeview because we want something resembling what other developed countries have. That is, choice! Watching a rerun of "It's in the bag" is not choice but a gap filler.



But that's not what Freeview exists for. It's solely a replacement for the analog TV platform but due to the additional bandwidth available also allows more channels. If you look at what is available on FTA channels elsewhere in the world we do pretty well in NZ. If you want to look at our closest neighbour Australia has similair numbers of FTA channels with content very similair to us here in NZ.

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  Reply # 168155 30-Sep-2008 21:27
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Well i'm over in the UK at the moment and rather surprised at the lack of minority language channels on thier freeview platform. I suppose that any such channels can't afford to big against the likes of QVC for a program slot so instead we have lots of shopping channels.




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  Reply # 168170 30-Sep-2008 21:45
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Well I'll agree with you that with satellite reception those that couldn't get a signal are getting one but not in HD or 5.1 surround. So far as terrestrial well lets just put it down to early days. What percentage of programs are transmitted in HD, which is standard resolution on new panels. An up-converted standard signal and two channel AC3 isn't really the image one gets when HD is proposed.

As for what the Freeview exists for... well one can always hope...

People don't pay exorbitant prices to Sky because they feel they have nowhere to keep their pocket money, its because Freeview still isn't delivering what those customer wants. The less Freeview delivers the more people will migrate to Sky or downloads and the less advertisers will be prepared to pay to a platform that doesn't attract the advertisers customers.

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  Reply # 168175 30-Sep-2008 21:51
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openmedia: Well i'm over in the UK at the moment and rather surprised at the lack of minority language channels on thier freeview platform. I suppose that any such channels can't afford to big against the likes of QVC for a program slot so instead we have lots of shopping channels.



Doesn't Wales have a couple of Welsh Language channels or are you talking about non-indigenous language channels?

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  Reply # 168211 1-Oct-2008 00:23
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BazNZ: Where is TRACKSIDE & PRIME ????


The last I have heard / understood was that Sky did not want Prime on Freeview, as it would cost them too much and they may want to put Prime on there HD System.

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/prime-freeview-no-hope-34739

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=83&TopicId=20863

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=34&TopicId=15286

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/television/news/article.cfm?c_id=339&objectid=10501472


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  Reply # 168233 1-Oct-2008 09:04
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Doesn't Wales have a couple of Welsh Language channels or are you talking about non-indigenous language channels?




UK's freeview system is very region based. Live in London and get BBC London news, live in Cambridge and get BBC East news.


You could say we have something similar with tvCentral in the Waikato only, but I think this is more a money issue.



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  Reply # 168237 1-Oct-2008 09:18
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stu28:

The last I have heard / understood was that Sky did not want Prime on Freeview, as it would cost them too much and they may want to put Prime on there HD System. 

 

As much as Sky wouldn't want to put prime on Freeview, they will eventually have to do somrthing or the government will get a bit miffed. Delayed coverage of sports is only just keeping the masses happy at the moment (52% pop without Sky). If prime disappears from FTA tv and is only available via satellite it will be even more reason for anti siphoning rules to be implemented as have been in most other countries around the world.

 

But it will be a long time coming as this is a very difficult situation to deal with especially since we have analogue, digital, and sat services currently. It will be a bit more clear cut when analogue dissappears and the government review is completed.

 

If this turns into a freeview vs sky or similar debate perhaps we should create a new topic for it.

 

 

cheers

 

db

 

p.s. I have Freeview HD on the computer which I use for everything and I am coping without Prime :-)


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  Reply # 168245 1-Oct-2008 09:37
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 People don't pay exorbitant prices to Sky because they feel they have nowhere to keep their pocket money, its because Freeview still isn't delivering what those customer wants. The less Freeview delivers the more people will migrate to Sky or downloads and the less advertisers will be prepared to pay to a platform that doesn't attract the advertisers customers.

If you think Sky's prices are exorbitant then don't pay for it. Then you will have to watch TVNZ, C3, C4, Prime.....then they will get more advertising dollars, then they will be able to compete with Sky on sports broadcasting prices.

That is a nice dream.





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