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  #2560334 8-Sep-2020 14:42
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old3eyes:

 

They could start by dropping the useless +1 channels. 

 

 

Leave these alone! They preserve an option to watch the news at 7pm if work commitments delay me beyond 6pm. I suspect I am not the only one.


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  #2560371 8-Sep-2020 15:57
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Also good for those that can't timeshift  for whatever reason





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  #2561437 10-Sep-2020 05:34
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Handsomedan:

 

Also good for those that can't timeshift  for whatever reason

 

 

 

 

exactly, my [retired] parents use it all the time.  They can't justify getting a PVR, so it's perfect for them if they want to watch the news later, or have a clash between two things they want to watch.


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  #2561467 10-Sep-2020 08:30
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It has just occurred to me that the title of this thread needs to be corrected.

 

Mediaworks has not been acquired by Discovery. Rather, Mediaworks have sold their TV operation to Discovery.


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  #2561468 10-Sep-2020 08:34
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alasta:

 

It has just occurred to me that the title of this thread needs to be corrected.

 

Mediaworks has not been acquired by Discovery. Rather, Mediaworks have sold their TV operation to Discovery.

 

 

I think you'll find when people talk about Mediaworks  the only think about the TV side of things.  I never think about their radio  holdings. 





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  #2561472 10-Sep-2020 08:42
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old3eyes:

 

alasta:

 

It has just occurred to me that the title of this thread needs to be corrected.

 

Mediaworks has not been acquired by Discovery. Rather, Mediaworks have sold their TV operation to Discovery.

 

 

I think you'll find when people talk about Mediaworks  the only think about the TV side of things.  I never think about their radio  holdings. 

 

 

Regardless, the topic isn't correctly titled.

 

 


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  #2561596 10-Sep-2020 10:45
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old3eyes:

 

I think you'll find when people talk about Mediaworks  the only think about the TV side of things.  I never think about their radio  holdings. 

 

 

That is interesting if true because radio and, to a lesser extent, out-of-home advertising are the profitable parts of the business. A lot of people believe that NZME's radio operation is doing okay but the reality is that Mediaworks own the age 54 and below demographic, and that's the audience that matters.

 

In some ways I actually think NZME is in more trouble than Mediaworks long term.


 
 
 
 


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  #2561654 10-Sep-2020 12:06
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alasta:

 

old3eyes:

 

I think you'll find when people talk about Mediaworks  the only think about the TV side of things.  I never think about their radio  holdings. 

 

 

That is interesting if true because radio and, to a lesser extent, out-of-home advertising are the profitable parts of the business. A lot of people believe that NZME's radio operation is doing okay but the reality is that Mediaworks own the age 54 and below demographic, and that's the audience that matters.

 

In some ways I actually think NZME is in more trouble than Mediaworks long term.

 

Funnily enough, while I know Mediaworks owns a good chunk of the radio market, I'd be hard pressed to tell you who/what they own. I know who owns what in the TV realm. 





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  #2561666 10-Sep-2020 12:27
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Radio and TV are intrinsically different media. TV demands some level of active involvement. Radio sits in the background and is passive. This is, of course, a sweeping generalisaiton.

 

 





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  #2561687 10-Sep-2020 13:11
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alasta:

 

the reality is that Mediaworks own the age 54 and below demographic, and that's the audience that matters.

 

 

Remember that the radio 'audience share' statistics almost invariably ignore people listening to Radio NZ National & Radio NZ Concert.
IIRC "Morning Report" on RNZ National has an actual market share that puts the commercial stations into minor placings, with a big gap between Morning Report and the least unpopular commercial station


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  #2561722 10-Sep-2020 14:04
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Rikkitic:

 

 This is, of course, a sweeping generalisaiton.

 

 

 

 

I do love a good sweeping generalisation. 





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  #2561730 10-Sep-2020 14:10
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PolicyGuy:

 

alasta:

 

the reality is that Mediaworks own the age 54 and below demographic, and that's the audience that matters.

 

 

Remember that the radio 'audience share' statistics almost invariably ignore people listening to Radio NZ National & Radio NZ Concert.
IIRC "Morning Report" on RNZ National has an actual market share that puts the commercial stations into minor placings, with a big gap between Morning Report and the least unpopular commercial station

 

 

That's not entirely true any more. GFK have started releasing non-commercial listenership metrics a week or so after they release their regular stats for the commercial stations. 

 

If I recall correctly the general pattern in recent history has had The Edge topping the cumulative audience figures with RNZ National and NZME's talk station also rating highly, albeit with the latter significantly skewed towards older people. In general the rest of the Mediaworks music stations perform pretty well while the NZME music stations struggle to compete.

 

RNZ has certainly seen a resurgence in the last five years but most of that audience probably came from the now defunct Radio Live. NZME's audience is less vulnerable to RNZ because they are more right wing and more 'sticky'.


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