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lchiu7

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#194843 9-Feb-2009 08:53

old3eyes:
lchiu7:
Can't argue with the fact that SkyHD has more HD content than Freeview. Freeview has so little HD content it's laughable
Especially what TVNZs offering are. Nearly zero..

At the risk of going slightly OT a quick scan of TV3's offering in HD this week shows
CSI
Life on Mars
Numb3rs
Bones
Cane
Boston Legal
Prison Break
Burn Notice
Californication
Rove (2.0)
Borat

Not sure what is on TVNZ but Criminal Minds is the only show I am aware of (and it's stereo only)

Only goes to prove the case about TVNZ's poor showing, especially given they are subsidised

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#194847 9-Feb-2009 09:11

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can you tell me how one can find out which tv1/tv2 shows are in HD (720p)? browsed tvnz.co.nz's listings ('tv guide') and NO shows are stated as HD.

http://www.freeviewnz.tv/whats_on_freeview/hd_programs

I really think the should have gone with freeview sat and freeview uhf terms, with the proviso that freeview uhf can display HD content, 'when available'.

Initially I was under the impression that freeview as a whole was the update/upgrade of our national TV broadcast infrastructure only, it's now clear that it's a marketing group with varying objectives as well.

If the government was concerned about sky's dominance there are far more direct methods they could have undertaken to correct this, like ensuring free to air, probably delayed, replays were available for most significant sporting events. I still consider freeveiw and sky to be completely different concepts with vary little common ground to be 'competing' over anyway, -namely the country viewers forced to get skys base package just to get TV1/2/3 etc. Other than that that they are completely different products, so why the competition?!

On the HD front, TV3 is doing very well and I really do appreciate getting some shows in HD and 5.1 You've got to admit the TVNZ HD and Dolby 5.1 side of things is simply odd, given their initial leap with the Olympics.

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#194869 9-Feb-2009 11:25

TVNZ's HD offerings are to put it politely, poor.

Expected the Sevens to be in HD on Sky, was really surprised they weren't. Would have been a good chance to showcasae sport in HD on TVNZ too.

Not that i'm that worried, my show was in full HD and 3D :)

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#194884 9-Feb-2009 12:59

Can anybody confirm that there was actual HD broadcasting kit at the Stadium so that there was the potential for a HD feed? You would have thought so given the global audience but one can never make assumptions!

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#194891 9-Feb-2009 13:33

According to the media release (http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/816457/898054) Sky and TVNZ are joint broadcasters including Wellington. However the five year agreement probably pre-dated HD plans by either company and as such it may even be broadcast in SD until the conclusion of this agreement (ie up to and including 2011). It may be that they are prevented from broadcasting in HD without the IRB's express approval and/or without agreeing between themselves. This could include agreement on incremental OSB costs, linking costs etc.

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#194913 9-Feb-2009 15:42

despite being at the stadium, I can't confirm or deny HD rig was being used, didn't notice either way.

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#195561 12-Feb-2009 16:26

I worked on the TV broadcast of the Rugby Sevens in Wellington.
Yes TVNZ and Sky share the broadcast rights.
We take turns Hosting the event, this year was the turn of TVNZ, we supplied SD 16:9 pictures with 2 stereo dolby surround sound audio feeds 1 was full programme mix (as used by TVNZ and all international clients)
And an international feed ( minus host commentators) which Sky TV used.
Do not assume because you see a camera man running the sideline or something that you saw on a sky sports event before, that it will be in HD.
TV in NZ is a very small industry, cameras, Audio, VT , and vision. Quite often work for either sky or TVNZ. either as freelancers or contracted out.
As far as I know OSB (outside side broadcast) have 2 maybe 3 HD capable trucks, therefore not all sports events are broadcast in HD 5.1.
Believe me when I say we are just as frustrated as you are. More content is coming be patient HD and 5.1 is still very new in NZ.

BTW thanks for the compliments on the olympics. I was part of that team too.

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#195563 12-Feb-2009 16:37

I loved the HD 5.1 from the Olympics - that was great. Just shows what can be done.

Regarding how small NZ is, looking at what Fox deployed for the Superbowl just puts how small we are in context

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/95739-Behind_Fox_s_Super_Bowl_Game_Plan.php?q=Jerry+Steinberg

30 cameras, 5 fifty foot mobile trailers!

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#195724 13-Feb-2009 18:00

The priorities seem to be a bit strange. As the Sevens was THE outside broadcasting event of the whole weekend, with a large number of live and primetime TV hours devoted to it, what were those precious few HD-capable broadcast trucks doing instead?

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#195730 13-Feb-2009 18:25

Like I said we are just as frustrated as you are. Just let me say preperations are being made to meet all your HD needs.

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#195808 14-Feb-2009 12:06

shouston: I worked on the TV broadcast of the Rugby Sevens in Wellington.
TVNZ and Sky share the broadcast rights.
We take turns Hosting the event, this year was the turn of TVNZ.

So if sky had hosted the event it would have be in HD/ Dolby 5.1

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#195812 14-Feb-2009 12:37

Possible, depends on what OB trucks they hire. Its not cut and dry.
Because sky is the host does not automaticly mean its HD 5.1.
I am working for Sky, in March on golf that won't be in HD or 5.1.
We have to wait till next year, and see what happens.
I just do what they ask for.

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#195815 14-Feb-2009 12:52

Would you say that as SD equipment is replaced (due to old age etc) it is replaced with HD gear? Or is money been spent anyway on HD gear so the network or content supplier is not left behind (competition).

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#196067 16-Feb-2009 16:15

Getting out of my league now. But going on past experience, they (the corporation) do tend to listen to what advice we offer. But a switching to HD is not a step by step change over. Its either HD or SD. It is a huge change over, cameras, Video machines even the cableing is different. Audio is a little more straight forward it can be delivered either as discretes (6 channel audio)as we did in China. Or as an encoded Dolby E stream (2 track stereo containing 6 channels of audio). The whole thing needs to be have standards of delivery set. That way it will work for any broadcaster, at this stage we have a mish mash of delivery specs. Audio levels/16.9/14.9/4.3 safe...Then you have to starting thinking of international clients, the list goes on.

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