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  Reply # 202283 19-Mar-2009 22:49
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As a user of this player for few months. 

    THE EPG 

Though it does not have a full 8 day EPG, it does display a 7 day skeleton EPG that you can use to set the timer. Thus today is Thursday, 19 March and you want to record King Kong on TV 3 at 7pm  Saturday, 21 March, in the EPG select TV 3 then press the right Nav key, the date and time will scroll past at a good clip, when you see Saturday, 21 March and the time slot 1900 to 2200 is highlighted grey release the key and press the Rec key, an R will appear  in the time slot, the timer now set.

To delete the reservation press Rec key again.     


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  Reply # 202460 20-Mar-2009 23:56
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Got my Vantage today.

First impressions are all good,

Very easy to set up.

Connected my Western Digital 640gig My Book & it found it.  

Will have a good play with it over the weekend & let you all know how it Compares with the ET box I just unplugged.

 

If anyone wants to know anything about the vantage just ask.

 


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  Reply # 202486 21-Mar-2009 12:13
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FPR: Got my Vantage today.

First impressions are all good,

Very easy to set up.

Connected my Western Digital 640gig My Book & it found it.  

Will have a good play with it over the weekend & let you all know how it Compares with the ET box I just unplugged.

 If anyone wants to know anything about the vantage just ask.

 

A couple of questions, if that's ok:

1. Do you find that your Western Digital drive powers down (and up) ok with the Vantage? It's just that I've been warned elsewhere on Geekzone about this issue with this brand of drives (in the context of using with a Mac Mini). I'll need to buy another external drive if I get the Vantage, and the WD drives can often be good value, but I do want to ensure full compatibility (including not having a drive spinning full-time!).

2. How do you find the timer recording function? I found an earlier thread that mentioned this a bit confusing and apparently the manual is silent on how it works, so any more details on this (eg exactly how and how easily it works) may be enough to encourage my partner to go with a Vantage, rather than waiting an unknown period of time to spend an unknown amount of money on an unknown product (ie, a fully-fledged Freeview HD PVR) with the prime benefit of a recording function based on the full EPG.

Many thanks

Jonathan


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  Reply # 202506 21-Mar-2009 15:14
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Does anyone know if this unit can play Divx media, MP3s, Wav files etc?
The dtvforum review suggests this unit can play some Xvids, but didn't go into any details.

Has anyone played typical compressed (~700MB for ~1.5hrs video) *.avi file media with the HD6000T?

Ideally it would be great if the HD6000T can play lots of different media as it could replace my current media duke box (plus record TV!).

But worst case, it would be good to know that it can play some sort of compressed media so I could at least look at transcoding my media (mainly Divx) to a format the HD6000T can play.

Cheers SRT




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  Reply # 202518 21-Mar-2009 17:13
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jonathan18: ... may be enough to encourage my partner to go with a Vantage, rather than waiting an unknown period of time to spend an unknown amount of money on an unknown product (ie, a fully-fledged Freeview HD PVR) with the prime benefit of a recording function based on the full EPG.

The most useful comparison at the moment would be against the Zinwell ZMT-640PVR, it's the first and currently only Freeview approved HD PVR. Noel Leeming and Dick Smith routinely advertise it for $999, so anyone serious about buying it could probably get a slightly better deal than that.

The Zinwell is a "single box" PVR, with built-in rather than external hard disk (though only a 250GB disk). It's also has dual tuners, so you can simultaneously record programmes on say TV One and TV3 - and of course you can play a previously recorded programme at the same time as that if you want to. And of course the scheduling of recordings is done from the Freeview|HD 8 day EPG.

Being the one and only "proper" HD PVR on the market is probably helping to keep the price up - there's some room for it to fall, or for specifications to improve when more competition appears.

The Vantage HD6000T/NZ costs $249 (plus shipping) and you'll probably add another $199 for an external hard disk - admittedly that will get you a 640GB disk, so more than double the storage capacity, but that's the size that probably give the most bang for your buck at the moment. The Vantage is a single tuner unit so you couldn't simultaneously record programmes from TV One and TV3, but you can apparently record two channels on the same mux simultaneously - say TV One and TV2.

They are quite different packages, but at quite different prices -- it's nice to have the choice.

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  Reply # 202596 22-Mar-2009 12:23
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Jonathan18

The Western Digital I have (Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 640 GB) Shuts down when I turn the Vantage off & starts up when I turn it on. There is also setting you can change for the hard drive…”always on” or “sleep mode” ( I have mine set for 3 minutes). Don’t need it on all the time. The WD My Book is very quiet as well.

 

Recording: If you can set a video recorder, you can set this up. Its very similar to my Pioneer Hard drive recorder as in you can choose daily/weekly name the program etc.

The book doesn’t say much about it, but as I say its not hard to do. & yes a full EPG with recording would be nice but $999 for a Zinwell 250gig or this unit + a hard drive for less then half dollars & more then twice the recording ….to me is a no brainer.

 

You can play mp3 & display .jpeg as well.

Haven’t tried to play any divx or mpg videos yet, but will try at some stage.


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  Reply # 202771 23-Mar-2009 12:27
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FPR: ... yes a full EPG with recording would be nice but $999 for a Zinwell 250gig or this unit + a hard drive for less then half dollars & more then twice the recording ….to me is a no brainer.
The second tuner that you get in the Zinwell ZMT-640PVR is perhaps more significant than its compatibility with the MHEG-5 8 day EPG - whether that makes it worth double the cost of a Vantage + external hard disk is probably determined by how much recording you want to do.

Most of my TV viewing is of recorded rather than live programmes, so a second tuner and easier / quicker scheduling of recordings via an EPG is quite valuable - but then a larger than 250GB hard disk would be quite valuable too for the same reason!

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  Reply # 202800 23-Mar-2009 14:37
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Have ordered one.
I will be interested to see if its any easier or harder to program than my old 40GB Philips DVD/HDD recorder (uhf/vhf).


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  Reply # 202825 23-Mar-2009 15:55
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I ordered one in the weekend but hadn't sent them a PM, oops. Just did that now, hopefully it arrives in a few days :)


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  Reply # 202958 24-Mar-2009 08:42
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FPR

Can you watch live TV through this unit if you are recording something?
Or can you only watch the channel that is being recorded?

... Is this why you pay extra for a twin tuner? Smile

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  Reply # 202974 24-Mar-2009 09:36
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benaltoft: FPR

Can you watch live TV through this unit if you are recording something?
Or can you only watch?the channel that?is being recorded?

... Is this why you pay extra for a twin tuner? Smile

Yes you can, but only channels on the same multiplexer - so if recording C4, you can only watch TV3 etc.

FPR

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  Reply # 203164 25-Mar-2009 00:33
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Ok, Thought I had better tell all you people out there what I think about the Vantage,

Since there is only a few days to go with this GeekZone offer.

Comparing this to the ET box I was using. As a FreeView Decoder The Vantage has a nicer looking menu with more options eg You can move channels around I don’t watch the Maori channel so I moved it to after TVNZ 7 & moved TV3+1 to where the Maori channel was. I have had no pixelation problems & the clock has always displayed the correct time, Banners have not froze on the screen (needing a reboot to clear) & when you display the EPG & then exit the EPG the picture goes back to what you had it set on, not full screen as the ET did.
The EPG displays now & next (sometimes a couple of hours ahead) & some times it displays nothing for a channel ( but other channels show programs ) It also displays all the info on the current program. I found the ET didn’t always display all the info about each program even when using the page down button it would finish half way thru a sentence.

When you turn the Vantage on, it is slower to start (it does a full reboot) where as the ET box only did a full reboot when you turned it off using the switch on the back.

PVR
There is a Time Slip option ( I haven’t played with this. I turned it off cause I didn’t want the Hard drive running all the time) A record now, when pressed a box pops up & asks if you want to stop recording when this program finish’s Y/N if no it will carry on recording up to 8hrs. (you can change time length) It also grabs the name from the EPG & names the recording.  Timer Record is called Reservation Setting & is, I think easy to use. You can choose once/daily/weekly Day of the week (if weekly) date/time etc & you can name the program if you want.
Easy & it works.

When recording say TV2 you can watch TV1,TV2, TVNZ6, TVNZ7 & Sports Extra
When recording TV3 you can watch TV3, C4 & TV3+1 (when it comes on line)

I have played .avi & .mpg movies on it. Also played mp3 & displayed jpegs.
You can play mp3 while looking at your pictures as well.
It didn’t play divx, mp4 or flv movies.

What I would like to see is a random play for mp3’s & to be able to use the numbers 1-9 on the remote (2 = ABC 3 = DEF etc) to name the recordings instead of the on screen keyboard.

At the end of the day I'm happy with the Vantage & don't regret buying it.

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Reply # 203181 25-Mar-2009 08:00
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Thanks FPR for your post. That was very helpful to me....and no doubt others that are reading.
Great to know that it can play .avi and mpeg as it is likley I trancode my current media into a format the HD6000 can play.

I have one curious question, every Xvid and Divx file I have has an *.AVI extention. Do you know if your .avi
was NOT a divx encoded avi?  Its a moot point really, looks lile I will get one of these HD6000 units and find out what media at home it can/cannot play.....will then post some feedback on here

Cheers SRT

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  Reply # 203191 25-Mar-2009 09:07
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FPR:
When you turn the Vantage on, it is slower to start (it does a full reboot) where as the ET box only did a full reboot when you turned it off using the switch on the back.



Thanks for your earlier post - always useful to hear in detail from users before commiting to buy yourself! I'm on the cusp of making a purchase - just not sure to wait around to see the price/features of the Topfield and Sommet units (if/when they turn up).

In regards to the quote above - can you give a length of time of how long it takes to boot up? My PVR probably takes 10 seconds - is it that sort of time or longer?

Thanks
Jonathan


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  Reply # 203200 25-Mar-2009 10:03
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jonathan18: In regards to the quote above - can you give a length of time of how long it takes to boot up? My PVR probably takes 10 seconds - is it that sort of time or longer?

Not in front of mine, but I'd say more like 15-20 seconds actually.

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