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Reply # 208257 20-Apr-2009 23:23
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Hey everyone, just a quick note to tell you we're now well over 600 submissions.

To those who think this is a total waste of time, well, I think it's all about self belief.  I do believe we can change the status quo.  I believe when people stand up with courage and passion, things really do change.

The day I think that we are powerless to change our situations will be the day I jump from the nearest bridge Wink

Folks, it actually makes commercial sense for Sky to put Prime on Freeview.  There are now more than 226,000 households in NZ with Freeview.  I would guess a lot of those households don't have Sky.  If I was an advertiser, I would be pretty dissapointed that my product or service was not being marketed to 226,000 households.  Even if there were only two people in each household with disposable income, that's more half a million consumers.

It might not seem like it, but this whole movement is actually a vote of confidence in Prime.  It's telling Sky that there is an untapped market that wants their product.  A market that will create wealth for their advertisers.  And when it comes down to it, it's really their advertisers who are getting short-changed.

Anyway, keep the faith.  To those who have signed the petition, thank you - your effort counts and I won't rest until we get the outcome we're after.

Bill.

PS: Please spread the word.  People deserve the right to have their say on this.

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  Reply # 208360 21-Apr-2009 14:14
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signed - #930.




kind regards Andrew TD

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 208453 21-Apr-2009 22:45
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#1343

Am not holding my breath, given Sky Television's history towards the New Zealand public. But you never know you don't try. You have my best wishes.




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  Reply # 208468 22-Apr-2009 07:33
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Signed, and hoping. Would so love to loose the analog tuner from my MediaCenter

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  Reply # 208471 22-Apr-2009 08:22
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this was posted on freeviewshop.co.nz's forums too, but when i commented, it was removed as the mod said it would discourage people to sign it LMAO

this is what i said;

"Even if PRIME went to Freeview, the chances of it going to DVB-S are slim, its more likey to stay UHF and go to DVB-T, so people who cant get PRIME in their area already on UHF, still wont get it free-to-air anyway"




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Reply # 208510 22-Apr-2009 11:24
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good luck!

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  Reply # 208543 22-Apr-2009 13:29
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signed #1519

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  Reply # 210161 28-Apr-2009 12:44
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Sigend - #2076!!!

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  Reply # 210793 30-Apr-2009 08:51
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Folks, it actually makes commercial sense for Sky to put Prime on Freeview.  There are now more than 226,000 households in NZ with Freeview.  I would guess a lot of those households don't have Sky.  If I was an advertiser, I would be pretty dissapointed that my product or service was not being marketed to 226,000 households.  Even if there were only two people in each household with disposable income, that's more half a million consumers.


One minor issue, but the ad rates on Prime are very low for a reason, and that's why they're full of cheap regional go-to-my-local-garage-for-repairs ads. Like Stratos.

In a simple business model, Sky won't pay for Prime to be on Freeview when they have it on their Sky platform for free - why spend money twice for the same product ? The reason Sky purchased Prime was to be able to say "we also own a free to air tv network and we're not just a pay tv network" when dealing with distributors and the public. They didn't buy Prime with a belief of serving the tv viewer a better product than what they already serve to their pay tv customers.

Yes I work in the industry. Just calling it as I see it.


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  Reply # 210802 30-Apr-2009 09:28
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PromNZ: One minor issue, but the ad rates on Prime are very low for a reason, and that's why they're full of cheap regional go-to-my-local-garage-for-repairs ads. Like Stratos.

In a simple business model, Sky won't pay for Prime to be on Freeview when they have it on their Sky platform for free - why spend money twice for the same product ? The reason Sky purchased Prime was to be able to say "we also own a free to air tv network and we're not just a pay tv network" when dealing with distributors and the public. They didn't buy Prime with a belief of serving the tv viewer a better product than what they already serve to their pay tv customers.

Yes I work in the industry. Just calling it as I see it.



Right let's get this sorted.

Prime is FTA on Analogue TV via UHF aerial. No $$$ charged.
Prime is on Sky, it is encrypted??? and requires a monthly $$$ Sub fee to get it displayed on your TV. This is not FTA.

Is prime on anything else? I have heard of a free sky thing a while ago but it is only available in bad reception areas where satellite is the only option. Is this correct?

The way I see it when Analogue is switched off Prime is no long "Free To Air" even if it is available on a free sky setup as these are only an option in Satellite only areas. Therefore Prime will be on Freeview.

As and when this happens is going to come down to how long Sky can argue to delay the analogue switch off, how the Freeview uptake goes, I would say when it reaches enough homes (1 million), Sky's current arguement will not be valid.

I suppose this is another one of those "Telecom" situations where government regulation should have been included in the sale documents.

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  Reply # 210806 30-Apr-2009 09:36
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All very true.

Except that the argument/topic is about something that hasn't happened yet nor has a firm time frame - switching off analogue.

I suspect Sky will be more vocal in the media once there's a 100% "it'll happen on this day" time frame. Otherwise I'm sure they're happy to obsfucate the issue with the public and Government folks, and in the meantime continue to encourage the public to commit to paying for their services.

Like any company, they're loathe to spend any money that isn't going to return more to their overall balance sheet.

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  Reply # 211247 1-May-2009 15:43
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PromNZ:
Like any company, they're loathe to spend any money that isn't going to return more to their overall balance sheet.


How would unencrypting the existing Prime Optus D1 satellite signal equate to "spend any money" it would return more to their balance sheet too.

Okay it's not on Freeview Terretrial but is available to many Freeview customers with a satellite receiver that can tune in more than the official freeview channels.

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  Reply # 211499 2-May-2009 00:26
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I'd hazard a guess but I'd say Freeview would want to continue their setup on their terms. After all, it's their product/brand. Having a channel that may/may not work wouldn't be good for them - so if Sky want to put Prime on Freeview, it's Sky's call to follow what others have chosen to do.

So far, they just don't want to !

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  Reply # 211727 2-May-2009 16:56
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Look I enjoy prime as much as your average person - but is it really such a big issue


well if your a scifi fan then yes so this is the reason im a pirate i d/l'd the programes i want to watch because i cant watch prime there realy isn't a valid reason for sky not to put prime on freeview unless they are thinking of making it an scrambled sky only chl

P.S. I signed too

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  Reply # 211732 2-May-2009 17:11
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well we certainly do need a heck of a lot more quality programming on freeview two maori channels that dont start till 3pm and finish at midnight yeah thats great but why not share the the one channel and cut your costs and stratos (repeat O rama) and a sports channel that spends more time blank than being used is just a ridiculas waste of resources

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