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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 383090 22-Sep-2010 11:22
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While we're talking future developments ...

When will we get the ability to transfer HD recordings to USB?

The Freeview certified Panasonic BW880 allows HD recordings to be transferred to blu-ray disc

The only difference here is the media. USB vs BDR

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  Reply # 383110 22-Sep-2010 12:00
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"The Freeview certified Panasonic BW880 allows HD recordings to be transferred to blu-ray disc"

Does it really, or is that just something they forgot to take out of the manual?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 383124 22-Sep-2010 12:14
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Interesting problem with the failure to record Masterchef Australia.  I have had this problem maybe once a week for the past few weeks.  First on 3.12 then again on 3.13.4.
However, I have been home at the time and have noted that the MTV3600 is in Standby, with the timer symbol lit up, but it fails to come out of Standby.  However, when I power the unit on, it immediately begins to record the program.  On completion, everything looks OK, just a delayed recording start and the series link set for the next night.
An avoidance may be to leave the unit powered on and not have it going into standby.  I am continuing to monitor to maybe pin down the conditions under which it happens.

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  Reply # 383131 22-Sep-2010 12:37
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latimers: "The Freeview certified Panasonic BW880 allows HD recordings to be transferred to blu-ray disc"

Does it really, or is that just something they forgot to take out of the manual?


Advertised feature

Asked for confirmation here:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=83&topicid=65557&page_no=5#383129

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  Reply # 383152 22-Sep-2010 13:44
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Freeview certification allows recordings to be copied to Blu-ray disc because those recordings are encrypted
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Access_Content_System
even though that encryption system has been broken repeatedly for three years.

Freeview certification does not allow the MTV's recordings to be copied from the HDD onto a USB drive because there is no encryption employed. This is why you need to pull the HDD to copy the recordings. Freeview Australia reportedly goes a step further and requires the recordings on the HDD itself to be encrypted so you can't access them even if you remove the drive. Therefore as the MTV3700D will be sold in Australia, we should be aware that if the same MTV3700D or an MTV3700D with similar firmware is sold in NZ it might incidently encrypt the recordings on the drive too.

I hope there will be some confirmation from Pixel Magic or the importer on whether the MTV3700D will be coming to NZ.

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  Reply # 383159 22-Sep-2010 13:56
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bfginger: Freeview certification allows recordings to be copied to Blu-ray disc because those recordings are encrypted
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Access_Content_System
even though the encryption system was broken three years ago.

Freeview certification does not allow the MTV's recordings to be copied from the HDD onto a USB drive because there is no encryption employed. This is why you need to pull the HDD to copy the recordings. Freeview Australia reportedly goes a step further and requires the recordings on the HDD itself to be encrypted so you can't access them even if you remove the drive. Therefore as the MTV3700D will be sold in Australia, we should be aware that if the same MTV3700D or an MTV3700D with similar firmware is sold in NZ it might incidently encrypt the recordings on the drive too.

I hope there will be some confirmation from Pixel Magic or the importer on whether the MTV3700D will be coming to NZ.


Ok thanks for that
Guess that's where networking comes in
Not a key feature for me, happy with my MagicTV

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Master Geek
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  Reply # 383162 22-Sep-2010 14:01
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bfginger: we should be aware that if the same MTV3700D or an MTV3700D with similar firmware is sold in NZ it might incidently encrypt the recordings on the drive too.

I hope there will be some confirmation from Pixel Magic or the importer on whether the MTV3700D will be coming to NZ.


Have spoken with the importers of MagicTV and at this stage there is no plans to bring the MTV3700D to NZ. Naturally in time everything is upgraded, but if that particular model was the update, it would still have the same restrictions as the current model as these are Freeview requirements. Magic is working on adding the feature to the current model that allows content to be transfered to USB HDD, but at this stage Freeview is indicating that broadcasters are keen on the 'must be encrypted with HDCP and can not be copied from the external HDD'. So whats the point? You can only view it in a different spot on an HDCP compliant USB HDD viewer.

As for holding off buying because a new model 'might' come out in 9-12 months time - that holds true for any brand, except those that are not supported well by the importers. 

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  Reply # 383167 22-Sep-2010 14:04
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Oh and when it comes to getting content off the drive, I think the ideas put forward here in this forum to either pull it off using Linux and the ethernet port or using a Sata cable adaptor are the better options. This model doesn't have encryption on the HDD (as pointed out before by others) and so that makes this the ideal model to get your content off of.

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  Reply # 383398 23-Sep-2010 00:51
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bfginger: The faster chip should mean no more fastforward / rewind stuttering and better upscaling and deinterlacing.


Hugely optimistic presumption there! The ffwd/frwd stutters seem much more like a filesystem issue to me. There won't be any improvement due to the new processor. Maybe improved due to new firmware though.

As for upscaling and the likes, for digital TVs the MTV shouldn't be doing any at all, send the data on in native format and let the display do the conversion work. The display should know best how to rescale for itself.

Downscaling is useful for TVs that have input limits, eg: PAL on the SVideo output. Of which the 3600 does a great job of already. :)


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  Reply # 384121 24-Sep-2010 17:42
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Hey just for those who have been waiting for it or who have family members who are wanting a MagicTV, Bond & Bond have them on special for $559.20

http://www.bondandbond.co.nz/tv-home-theatre/freeview/sundry-mtv3600td-500gb-myfreeview-hd-digital-television-recorder/prod100767.html?ref=pricespy

Presumably this ends Friday Oct 1st?? With the GST rise? 

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  Reply # 384594 26-Sep-2010 17:40
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Thanks for the tip about the special deal at Bond and Bond. I already own a Magic box,but i took a friend down to the store yesterday ,and she purchased one at the special price. Thanks for saving her $140...

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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 384653 26-Sep-2010 20:25
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I have noticed that on our MagicTV (about 6 weeks old) that a number of recordings, particularly from TV one, seem to start late & as a consequence end early. I have extended the end time delay to 5 mins from the default of 2 mins. Is there any reason for this though?




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  Reply # 384677 26-Sep-2010 21:22
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Because TV 1 has bad time management?





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  Reply # 385258 28-Sep-2010 02:40
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casewindow: I have noticed that on our MagicTV (about 6 weeks old) that a number of recordings, particularly from TV one, seem to start late & as a consequence end early. I have extended the end time delay to 5 mins from the default of 2 mins. Is there any reason for this though?


Each programmed setup contains it's own set of extension times which is taken from the defaults when you set up that programming.

Dig up your "To Do List" and go through each of the programmes you want to change and edit the extend times.


gpf

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  Reply # 387419 3-Oct-2010 16:38
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I bought my MagicTV 3600 ten months ago and love everything about it apart from some points discussed in this thread: lack of timed FF (ability to jump 30sec/1min etc. would be great); restriction of exporting to USB and streaming across network. Having said that, this product rocks when compared to my previous Ultraplus 980HD! What a piece of junk the OS in that was. Yeah sure it can export to USB or even across the network but it would completely freeze almost everyday requiring a button reset; programs were almost never recorded properly (correct start and end times); the HD "wasn't" (limitation of satellite I found out later), and the list goes on.

Anyway, what I'm writing about today is to ask why is it that occasionally - including today, the only channels I can view on MagicTV are channels 1,2,6,7? I read somewhere on here someone saying these are all on the same 'mux', being TVNZ. The rest of the channels are on MediaWorks and Kordia.

This is about the third time this has happened over the last few months and it's really starting to annoy me. I have restarted the box via software and also by switching the rear panel switch - no difference. I should mention I have Freeview built into my Samsung 46" LED so tried switching to that and all the channels were displayed there perfectly. That counts out the aerial reception then doesn't it? The aerial cable comes out of the wall and goes into the Magic box and then out of that and into the TV which is working fine.

The last time it happened I rang MagicTV support but got an answer phone and never heard back from anybody.

Am I the only one to experience this?  

Thanks
Gary 

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