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# 273834 17-Nov-2009 12:20

bazzer: Has anyone used it on their PC? THat sounds interesting, would it work straight forwardly in Windows 7? I might give that a go when I get my unit...

Yeah, download slightly modified pinnacle drivers from here:
http://www.ps3news.com/forums/playstation-3-news/sony-playtv-win32-driver-now-available-104764.html#post256054

That's why importing from UK was no problem as you could always fall back on using this as a tuner for the PC.

Anyway, once in Windows Media Player you can fully realise the twin tuners in the hardware, so it can work like a proper independent twin tuner card should, record two at once, watch another sort of thing that PlayTV software doesn't allow you to do.

Looks like pinnacle sold it's TV tuner hardware section to Hauppauge. The imported price for playTV is about the same as buying a twin tuner card here in NZ anyway, so all good.

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# 273843 17-Nov-2009 12:42

Jaxson: ...

Actually given you can get drivers for this tuner box for use on computer, makes you wonder if you could get a hold of the tuners cheap from somewhere and just borrow the disk to install the software?!

Interesting points.

1. Would the software work with a standard DVB-T tuner like the Hauppauge WinTV Nova T. I have one so might check it out

2. Using the PlayTV in a PC - interesting from an academic point but not so useful elsewhere since you would not have the cool PlayTV software.

As an aside I tried to fire up PlayTV when my device wasn't plugged in properly and it complained that it could not start without the hardware installed.

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# 273847 17-Nov-2009 12:59

lchiu7:
2. Using the PlayTV in a PC - interesting from an academic point but not so useful elsewhere since you would not have the cool PlayTV software.

Yes and no. With media centre in windows 7 you get a pretty slick interface too. RustyGonad tells me you can map the satellite EPG to UHF/HD channels so you get full EPG that way, plus twin HD recording/viewing. Not a bad fall back if you chose not to use it in the PS3 for whatever reason.

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# 273864 17-Nov-2009 13:58

Something I have not yet tested.... scheduled recording while PS3 is in standby. Does this work? Does the PS3 automatically switch on?

Cheers, Stevo

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# 273865 17-Nov-2009 14:00

stevonz: Something I have not yet tested.... scheduled recording while PS3 is in standby. Does this work? Does the PS3 automatically switch on?

yes it does and then switch off again - again way cool

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# 273870 17-Nov-2009 14:08

lchiu7: 1. Would the software work with a standard DVB-T tuner like the Hauppauge WinTV Nova T. I have one so might check it out.

Perhaps, but the first stumbling block is the identifiers I would have thought. Is there a way to change the identifier the tuner uses? I don't think it's that easy. PlayTV is USB\VID_1415&PID_0003, unless the tuner presents itself as such I don't think you'll have a chance to get it working on your PS3.

Second issue is hardware. PlayTV uses the DiBcom 7070P chipset, so if your tuner uses a different incompatible chipset, it's even less likely to work.

I've downloaded more recent Pinnacle drivers (3.12.4.0 cf 3.7.0.1). Don't know if they're any better, but newer is always good, right? I guess I can make similar modifications to the .inf to use this. The modifications are very straightforward, just adding the PlayTV identifiers. I suppose it will work, if not I can always roll back to the older drivers.

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# 273872 17-Nov-2009 14:31

stevonz: Something I have not yet tested.... scheduled recording while PS3 is in standby. Does this work? Does the PS3 automatically switch on?

Yep, works a treat both on EPG time slots and manual record.

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# 273876 17-Nov-2009 14:47

lchiu7:
stevonz: Something I have not yet tested.... scheduled recording while PS3 is in standby. Does this work? Does the PS3 automatically switch on?

yes it does and then switch off again - again way cool

Way kewl... thanks

Cheers, Stevo

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# 273951 17-Nov-2009 16:46

bazzer:
I've downloaded more recent Pinnacle drivers (3.12.4.0 cf 3.7.0.1). Don't know if they're any better, but newer is always good, right? I guess I can make similar modifications to the .inf to use this. The modifications are very straightforward, just adding the PlayTV identifiers. I suppose it will work, if not I can always roll back to the older drivers.

Let us know how you get on Bazzer. This is something I have in mind for later if I move away from the PS3 to a HTPC, so hearing from anyone else in the position to test this with Windows 7 media player is all good.

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# 273955 17-Nov-2009 17:01

It'll be a month before my PlayTV arrives unfortunately, just gettng prepared :)

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# 274415 19-Nov-2009 09:26

Guys, I have a favour to ask, those of you who already have PlayTV are you able to go to this link (http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=bANZ_PS3_PlayTV&thread.id=1622 and report your findings please. This includes things you like, hate, bugs you have found, improvments and idea's
This is very important as the information WILL BE passed onto the developers so the more information/idea's relayed the better!!!

Thanks guys

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# 274428 19-Nov-2009 10:34

wilt64: Guys, I have a favour to ask, those of you who already have PlayTV are you able to go to this link (http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=bANZ_PS3_PlayTV&thread.id=1622 and report your findings please. This includes things you like, hate, bugs you have found, improvments and idea's
This is very important as the information WILL BE passed onto the developers so the more information/idea's relayed the better!!!

Thanks guys

Good work! I will definitely post my findings and suggestions there.

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# 278646 2-Dec-2009 09:34

Last night I did some quick tests whilst recording and watching CSI New York. I moved the unit to another room with a better aerial, shorter coax run etc. This aerial had twice the number of elements and is on proper RG6 coax but I haven't given much effort to optimising it's direction.

Anyway, the results were a lot better. There was still pixelation, but not as bad as with the other aerial we have feeding the lounge. I did a channel rescan on the new aerial and was really surprised to see a signal strength of only 47% and 50% across the channels it picked up! I figured that would be the problem right there, but when I did another scan on the lounge/worst stuttering location I found that one had a signal strength of 95% and 100% so it should be better!

The PlayTV software could really benefit from a signal strength AND signal Quality continuous meter to help orientate the aerial.

I haven't tried reinstalling the software and doing the update again, so that's next on my list, and I might try aligning the larger aerial I quickly through up as well. Eventually I might have to put a smaller hard drive back in the PS3. I'll probably sell the whole thing if it comes to that though!

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# 280143 7-Dec-2009 21:08

Great summaries and testing brave people. Been waiting SO long for this - I'm convinced and finally ordered. I went with the $145 option from MyMemory (presently £62.95) to get the 1 year guarantee and peace of mind over other cheaper options on eBay. Can now sleep again.

Another point that occurred to me (which could help others get over hesitation to order from the UK) was that it is powered by the USB: so no power cable and no nz/uk adapter needed.

I do have some questions around file size: roughly how many GB are used per hour of recorded TV? Is some 'free space' also needed while recording? Having an 80GB PS3 I'd like to get away with not upgrading its drive as I won't be storing masses of shows.

Also, should I want to copy some things off to my external HDD for longer term storage, I'm keen to find out if you can:
- Move recordings off PlayTV to XMB and then to external HDD: is this possible with 30min and 1 hour shows?
- Copy a movie (say 3 hours long) from XMB to external HDD? What is the maximum size that you can copy over?
- As the NZ aired-files don't (presently) have working audio after being exported to the XMB, can you 'import' them back to PlayTV library to play (e.g. if there was an old show I'd moved to my External Drive that I wanted to watch again?)

Also I have to have one dig @Jaxson: are you sure the stuttering issues aren't just CSI's total over-use of high-speed cutting montages??!! But seriously though thanks for all the reviews,

Cheers

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# 280236 8-Dec-2009 07:04

lackie: Great summaries and testing brave people. Been waiting SO long for this - I'm convinced and finally ordered. I went with the $145 option from MyMemory (presently £62.95) to get the 1 year guarantee and peace of mind over other cheaper options on eBay. Can now sleep again.

Another point that occurred to me (which could help others get over hesitation to order from the UK) was that it is powered by the USB: so no power cable and no nz/uk adapter needed.

Correct, Playtv is powered by the USB

I do have some questions around file size: roughly how many GB are used per hour of recorded TV? Is some 'free space' also needed while recording? Having an 80GB PS3 I'd like to get away with not upgrading its drive as I won't be storing masses of shows.

HD (TV3 1080i) is aprox 4gb per 40min TV1/2 (720p) aprox 3gb per 40min SD is around 2gb per 40min

Also, should I want to copy some things off to my external HDD for longer term storage, I'm keen to find out if you can:
- Move recordings off PlayTV to XMB and then to external HDD: is this possible with 30min and 1 hour shows?

Yes and no the external drive is limited to 4gb due to being in FAT32, so upgrading you internal drive would be the way to go.

- Copy a movie (say 3 hours long) from XMB to external HDD? What is the maximum size that you can copy over?
- As the NZ aired-files don't (presently) have working audio after being exported to the XMB, can you 'import' them back to PlayTV library to play (e.g. if there was an old show I'd moved to my External Drive that I wanted to watch again?)

No

Also I have to have one dig @Jaxson: are you sure the stuttering issues aren't just CSI's total over-use of high-speed cutting montages??!! But seriously though thanks for all the reviews,

No Some people are experancing issues, this can be related to poor reception or HDD
For more information (this will answer most of your questions go to http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/?tag=ps3_playtv or http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board?board.id=bANZ_PS3_PlayTV or http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/forum/index.php?board=1.0

Cheers

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