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  Reply # 318899 15-Apr-2010 16:14
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At least the NZ music vids dont look like they have been ripped off youtube and then had black borders added on all 4 sides like so much of the US sourced stuff.




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  Reply # 318906 15-Apr-2010 16:19
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In regard to 30% local content. 
Personally I have never been the kind of person to like New Zealand music simply because it is from New Zealand. I don't think I would ever watch a "The New Zealand Music Show" type show, however I may be intrigued by a genre specific show. Either way, if It is quality content I am interested. 

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  Reply # 318911 15-Apr-2010 16:24
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richms: At least the NZ music vids dont look like they have been ripped off youtube and then had black borders added on all 4 sides like so much of the US sourced stuff.


yes your right

but they use digital tapes for there sources so the video are really hq it just that c4 encoader has to make all ntsc videos 720x480 4.3 to 720x576 16:9 but because the video has black bars at bottom and top c4s encoarder adds a black boarder on left and right to have the video not look streatched

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  Reply # 318916 15-Apr-2010 16:29
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Would it kill them to scale it to fullscreen? Sucks having a 32" picture on a 42" screen.




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  Reply # 318920 15-Apr-2010 16:32
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Deev8: Of course no TV company can please all of the people all of the time, but from my point of view Mediaworks already have one channel that I rarely watch (C4), one channel that's useful about once per month (TV3 Plus1) and now they are introducing another that I may never watch.


I actually watch TV3+1 more than any other channel. Find it pretty convenient.

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  Reply # 318928 15-Apr-2010 16:40
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richms: Would it kill them to scale it to fullscreen? Sucks having a 32" picture on a 42" screen.


what they would have to do is crop all the usa 4.3 video to 16:9 720x576 but they would need anoughter computer to copy the music video off the tape to and then edit it and copy back to the tape and that would cost a hell of a lot of money to do mate

they could buy an encoader that would crop the videos for them but it cost so damn much

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  Reply # 318933 15-Apr-2010 16:44
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Something is makeing it wider than 4:3 stuff is so its not like the old 4:3 shows they play which are full height and only as wide as 4:3 - most vids go to about half way between the 4:3 size and the side of the frame.

IMO is is inexcusable to transmit something that doesnt touch the 16:9 output size one one dimension. I am not asking them to crop off picture content to make it 16:9, just show it as large as possible.




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richms: Something is makeing it wider than 4:3 stuff is so its not like the old 4:3 shows they play which are full height and only as wide as 4:3 - most vids go to about half way between the 4:3 size and the side of the frame.

IMO is is inexcusable to transmit something that doesnt touch the 16:9 output size one one dimension. I am not asking them to crop off picture content to make it 16:9, just show it as large as possible.


when they crop it wouldint remove any of the video its would just make video 720x576 16:9 like the music show in au called rage crop there videos

this video is 4.3 [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/24gvsl1.jpg[/IMG]

some of there 4.3 video are little wider then 4.3 this is because they dont crop and the encoader add boarder streching video a little but depending on the tape source or source of video they used it may not be streched at all as you can see in my pic

btw sd channles on freeview dont broudcast in 16:9 there aspect is 20:11 i dont know why this is

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  Reply # 318941 15-Apr-2010 16:56
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cassadee:
richms: Something is makeing it wider than 4:3 stuff is so its not like the old 4:3 shows they play which are full height and only as wide as 4:3 - most vids go to about half way between the 4:3 size and the side of the frame.

IMO is is inexcusable to transmit something that doesnt touch the 16:9 output size one one dimension. I am not asking them to crop off picture content to make it 16:9, just show it as large as possible.


when they crop it wouldint remove any of the video its would just make video 720x576 16:9 like the music show in au called rage crop there videos

this video is 4.3 [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/24gvsl1.jpg[/IMG]

some of there 4.3 video are little wider then 4.3 this is because they dont crop and the encoader add boarder streching video a little but depending on the tape source or source of video they used it may not be streched at all as you can see in my pic

btw sd channles on freeview dont broudcast in 16:9 there aspect is 20:11 i dont know why this is


That looks like a music video that:



  • Originally was 16:9

  • Was converted to 4:3 Letterbox and was then transmitted as 16:9


Kinda like the 'postage stamp affect' for 4:3 viewers, but in this sense affects 16:9 viewers.




Check out my LPFM Radio Station at www.thecheese.co.nz cool


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  Reply # 318942 15-Apr-2010 16:57
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ZollyMonsta:
cassadee:
richms: Something is makeing it wider than 4:3 stuff is so its not like the old 4:3 shows they play which are full height and only as wide as 4:3 - most vids go to about half way between the 4:3 size and the side of the frame.

IMO is is inexcusable to transmit something that doesnt touch the 16:9 output size one one dimension. I am not asking them to crop off picture content to make it 16:9, just show it as large as possible.


when they crop it wouldint remove any of the video its would just make video 720x576 16:9 like the music show in au called rage crop there videos

this video is 4.3 [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/24gvsl1.jpg[/IMG]

some of there 4.3 video are little wider then 4.3 this is because they dont crop and the encoader add boarder streching video a little but depending on the tape source or source of video they used it may not be streched at all as you can see in my pic

btw sd channles on freeview dont broudcast in 16:9 there aspect is 20:11 i dont know why this is


That looks like a music video that:






  • Originally was 16:9



  • Was converted to 4:3 Letterbox and was then transmitted as 16:9





Kinda like the 'postage stamp affect' for 4:3 viewers, but in this sense affects 16:9 viewers.


Originally was 16:9

nope the source c4 got on there take was 4.3 from usa

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  Reply # 318952 15-Apr-2010 17:10
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Well it sucks. I see less black by about 10% when watching in media center, I dont know what it does with overscan because I have no control over it, the STB shows less but its going to a wide CRT which has massive overscan issues.

If the stuff really is from a tape then its inexcusable how crap some of it looks.

This is what I was just seeing

There is no way that is from 4:3 just pillarboxed, there has been some cropping, just not enough of it.

and Mmmm, crap deinterlacing, thanks for the interlaced content C4....

edit - forum messing with the aspect, right click and view and its fine.




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  Reply # 318954 15-Apr-2010 17:13
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richms: Well it sucks. I see less black by about 10% when watching in media center, I dont know what it does with overscan because I have no control over it, the STB shows less but its going to a wide CRT which has massive overscan issues.

If the stuff really is from a tape then its inexcusable how crap some of it looks.

This is what I was just seeing

There is no way that is from 4:3 just pillarboxed, there has been some cropping, just not enough of it.

and Mmmm, crap deinterlacing, thanks for the interlaced content C4....

edit - forum messing with the aspect, right click and view and its fine.


media center crops videos

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  Reply # 318960 15-Apr-2010 17:16
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4:3 stuff is noway near as close to the left and right edges... Just deleted family guy off here so cant go back and cap it, but its normally about halfway between the edge of the BEP video and the C4 logo on the left.




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  Reply # 318965 15-Apr-2010 17:19
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richms: 4:3 stuff is noway near as close to the left and right edges... Just deleted family guy off here so cant go back and cap it, but its normally about halfway between the edge of the BEP video and the C4 logo on the left.


i have riped this

ive riped lots from c4

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  Reply # 319051 15-Apr-2010 20:57
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Apparently the channel is already loading on DVB-T on channel 9 (if you can't see it, do a rescan and it should show) - the coming soon logo
Just tried scanning DVB-S and not found it

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