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  Reply # 388532 5-Oct-2010 22:46
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Has anyone done a decent review on these new Freeview Panasonic recorders compared to the MagicTV or Tivo. I'm interested in how the usability and features compare in actual use.

The Tivo is legendary for its ease of use but have the newer machines equaled or surpassed it now?

Is it possible to stream recorded programs out to say another computer on a network to view content on its hard-drive while someone else is watching the main TV

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  Reply # 388598 6-Oct-2010 08:04
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NZRobin: Has anyone done a decent review on these new Freeview Panasonic recorders compared to the MagicTV or Tivo. I'm interested in how the usability and features compare in actual use.

The Tivo is legendary for its ease of use but have the newer machines equaled or surpassed it now?

Is it possible to stream recorded programs out to say another computer on a network to view content on its hard-drive while someone else is watching the main TV

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TiVo vs XW-380 for usability I would rate them as equivalent, however, the TiVo EPG (from the internet, not over the air) is faster, but as you may has seen, does not cover all channels.

XW-380 streaming of content (DLNA, not available on current TiVo models) is unaffected while other contented is being watched, however, we aware of the HE-AAC audio on every channel appart from TV3, even if your TV has an inbuilt decoder, it may not play the streaming content (both my Sony and Panasonic TV, which have inbuilt FreeView decoders, will not play the recorded when streamed, they play from the decoder itself fine). I hope that helped and didn't make things worse.

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  Reply # 388603 6-Oct-2010 08:20
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freitasm: WHS (Windows Home Server) is a Windows Connect server, so yes, it's visible to DLNA clients.


I'm about to install this (assuming it's 32bit), can it be added to a domain (the product name implies it can't)?

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  Reply # 388742 6-Oct-2010 13:38
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They aren't even listed on the Freeview website and the Panasonic website lacks any detailed information.

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Reply # 389336 7-Oct-2010 20:48
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Just discovered that our Panasonic DMR-BW850 wouldn't play multi zone DVD's. (Kids not happy). My better half decided to go buy a cheap DVD player. The nice sales person at Powerstore informed her that if she took the Panasonic to the service agent while still under warranty they would be able to make it play multi zone. Sure enough it worked. (Happy kids again)

Thanks Powerstore.

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Reply # 391967 14-Oct-2010 21:04
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Hi guys
i just purchased panasonic bw880 and setup network options (home network). i see the videos on my windows 7 laptop (using windows media player). i can play the video but no sound!! i read in one of threads that i can open the video using vlc player but cant seem to find for the path for the video to tell vlc to play it. any ideas ?
thanks for the advise.

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  Reply # 392089 15-Oct-2010 09:15
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sqlpro: Hi guys
i just purchased panasonic bw880 and setup network options (home network). i see the videos on my windows 7 laptop (using windows media player). i can play the video but no sound!! i read in one of threads that i can open the video using vlc player but cant seem to find for the path for the video to tell vlc to play it. any ideas ?
thanks for the advise.


You can play TV3 straight from the player, however, all others are HE-AAC and here is what I've had to do.

Use the PS3 to download the content
Transfer the content from the PS3 to SD
Play content from SD card

A dreadful solution but VLC does not have a DLNA client and PS3 is the only client I've found that can download client. If you manage to get a HE-AAC codec that would solve your (and my) problem, I'll keep you up to date with this ongoing frustration.

Note: Although both my Panansonic and Sony have the codec (as they both have FreeView), neither will play the content.

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  Reply # 392107 15-Oct-2010 09:45
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XBox Media Center 9.1 works.

It has both the codec and DLNAS/UPnP client, however on Windows 7 I'm having some stability problems with it (runs fine on Win XP). It ran once on my Win 7 machine but not again, however, I suspect that is an issue with my Win7 / Server 2003 redirect and not an issue with the software. I've uninstalled it, but I hope it will provide a solution for you.

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  Reply # 392299 15-Oct-2010 15:53
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You can play TV3 straight from the player, however, all others are HE-AAC and here is what I've had to do.

Use the PS3 to download the content
Transfer the content from the PS3 to SD
Play content from SD card

A dreadful solution but VLC does not have a DLNA client and PS3 is the only client I've found that can download client. If you manage to get a HE-AAC codec that would solve your (and my) problem, I'll keep you up to date with this ongoing frustration.

Note: Although both my Panansonic and Sony have the codec (as they both have FreeView), neither will play the content.


damn i thought it would be something simple. i dont have PS3 so cant do what you are doing. my idea is to archive videos to external disk. i know i can burn dvd but want to keep it in original HD version. once you get used to HD you cant watch anything else ;o)

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  Reply # 397168 29-Oct-2010 09:07
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freitasm (or anyone else), if you have communications with Panasonic NZ, could you please ask them to do something about Freeview's failure to list these two models as being Freeview approved on their website
http://freeviewnz.tv/products/listing/myfreeviewhd

Panasonic's sales will be being killed until they're listed on the public's first reference point for buying a Freeview PVR.

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  Reply # 401058 6-Nov-2010 08:53
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Can anyone PLEASE confirm if you can copy recordings from the HDD to Blu-Ray disc on the DMR-BW880??
No one seems to know - even the people that sell them. I suspect that this would be a "no" due to the HD code broadcast with freeview.
Pretty sad if this is the case.
Thanks everyone

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  Reply # 401095 6-Nov-2010 11:04
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You can definitely copy HiDef content from the HDD to a Blu-Ray on the DMR-BW850, so I would see no reason why it would be changed for the 880, but I have not tried it.

If you try and copy HD content onto a DVD, it is down scaled to standard definition.

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Reply # 401134 6-Nov-2010 13:38
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RingoTB: You can definitely copy HiDef content from the HDD to a Blu-Ray on the DMR-BW850, so I would see no reason why it would be changed for the 880, but I have not tried it.

If you try and copy HD content onto a DVD, it is down scaled to standard definition.


Yep, you can definitely do that with the DMR-BW850 but apparently because the 880 is freview certified then you cant copy HD content from the HDD to blu ray. I understand the whole copyright protection thing, but because it is freeview, it is free to air so you should be able to simply archive stuff to blu-ray. Pretty crappy Panasonic

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  Reply # 401157 6-Nov-2010 15:03
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You could try downloading the Australian manual and see if that gives any indication, though there are probably differences between the Aus and NZ models. The link is:

http://panasonic.com.au/content/library/files/F002522.pdf

I could not locate one on the Panasonic NZ website.


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  Reply # 401164 6-Nov-2010 15:30
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spacecadet:
RingoTB: You can definitely copy HiDef content from the HDD to a Blu-Ray on the DMR-BW850, so I would see no reason why it would be changed for the 880, but I have not tried it.

If you try and copy HD content onto a DVD, it is down scaled to standard definition.


Yep, you can definitely do that with the DMR-BW850 but apparently because the 880 is freview certified then you cant copy HD content from the HDD to blu ray. I understand the whole copyright protection thing, but because it is freeview, it is free to air so you should be able to simply archive stuff to blu-ray. Pretty crappy Panasonic



I predicted some months ago this would be the case with any Freeview certified  recorder like this.  Guess if you want the FV EPG you have to do without  HD copy..




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