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# 68181 16-Sep-2010 12:28
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This has just been posted over on Screescribe, hopefully it's true.
http://www.screenscribe.tv/hdtv/free-hdtv-everywhere-by-2013/

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  # 380625 16-Sep-2010 13:19
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  # 380641 16-Sep-2010 13:40
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Yip, 2013 it is and I am also led to beleive that that is a further roll out of Freeview HD to more regional centres timetabled for before the RWC next year as part of this package,

 
 
 
 


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  # 380670 16-Sep-2010 14:33
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Good news, just need to make sure they don't let it slip.

Make people aware this is the final date and it wont be extended because you're crying as you don't have a STB.




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  # 380675 16-Sep-2010 14:42
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Earlier than expected - maybe the revenue from spectrum auctions beckoned.

I wonder if they'll be handing out vouchers for STBs like the US.


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  # 380683 16-Sep-2010 15:02
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wellygary: Yip, 2013 it is and I am also led to beleive that that is a further roll out of Freeview HD to more regional centres timetabled for before the RWC next year as part of this package,


Perhaps this will put pressure on Sky to change Prime to a HD channel on Freeview.

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  # 380720 16-Sep-2010 16:08
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graemeh:
wellygary: Yip, 2013 it is and I am also led to beleive that that is a further roll out of Freeview HD to more regional centres timetabled for before the RWC next year as part of this package,


Perhaps this will put pressure on Sky to change Prime to a HD channel on Freeview.


I saw an ad a while ago for the commonwealth games on Prime in HD....




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  # 380736 16-Sep-2010 16:27
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Has there been any announcements so far on when the Freeview|HD coverage is going to increase?




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  # 380742 16-Sep-2010 16:30

JonC: Earlier than expected - maybe the revenue from spectrum auctions beckoned.

I wonder if they'll be handing out vouchers for STBs like the US.




 

I suspect some very serious lobbying has gone on from the Telcos, so they can buy up the spectrum. The problem is we are now going to see a lot of TVs just dumped, as it is not economical to be a STB for an old CRT, when you aren't paying much more for a LCD with freeview built in, that is a far better product. The STB cost stuff all to make, so they really should be sold a lot cheaper than they are being sold for. I got a non approved one off trademe new, for $50. Perhaps the gov are going to do what they have done in other countries and given each house hold a voucher for a good discount off the STB, although I won't hold my breath...

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  # 380746 16-Sep-2010 16:51
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robbyp:
JonC: Earlier than expected - maybe the revenue from spectrum auctions beckoned.

I wonder if they'll be handing out vouchers for STBs like the US.




 

I suspect some very serious lobbying has gone on from the Telcos, so they can buy up the spectrum. The problem is we are now going to see a lot of TVs just dumped, as it is not economical to be a STB for an old CRT, when you aren't paying much more for a LCD with freeview built in, that is a far better product. The STB cost stuff all to make, so they really should be sold a lot cheaper than they are being sold for. I got a non approved one off trademe new, for $50. Perhaps the gov are going to do what they have done in other countries and given each house hold a voucher for a good discount off the STB, although I won't hold my breath...


The cost is not just the STB, though - it's the antenna or dish and their installation.  Especially for people who aren't in the HD regions, the cost of a dish and box could be beyond some people's budgets.  I imagine all sorts of howling and screaming.  If the govt hand out vouchers, people who paid for boxes will scream.  If they don't then other people will scream...


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  # 380750 16-Sep-2010 16:54
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Why not use the new UFB network to deliver TV, even if its just streaming normal broadcast channels?





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  # 380754 16-Sep-2010 16:59
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Zeon: Why not use the new UFB network to deliver TV, even if its just streaming normal broadcast channels?


Not enough coverage, not soon enough.  This was the whole reason Freeview was created - switch to digital, sell the spectrum.


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  # 380759 16-Sep-2010 17:05

JonC:
robbyp:
JonC: Earlier than expected - maybe the revenue from spectrum auctions beckoned.

I wonder if they'll be handing out vouchers for STBs like the US.




 

I suspect some very serious lobbying has gone on from the Telcos, so they can buy up the spectrum. The problem is we are now going to see a lot of TVs just dumped, as it is not economical to be a STB for an old CRT, when you aren't paying much more for a LCD with freeview built in, that is a far better product. The STB cost stuff all to make, so they really should be sold a lot cheaper than they are being sold for. I got a non approved one off trademe new, for $50. Perhaps the gov are going to do what they have done in other countries and given each house hold a voucher for a good discount off the STB, although I won't hold my breath...


The cost is not just the STB, though - it's the antenna or dish and their installation.  Especially for people who aren't in the HD regions, the cost of a dish and box could be beyond some people's budgets.  I imagine all sorts of howling and screaming.  If the govt hand out vouchers, people who paid for boxes will scream.  If they don't then other people will scream...




 

I don't think people who have already purchased them will care that much, becuase as early adopters you do expect to pay more, and there is nothing stopping people getting more STBs with a voucher. You would need a STB for each TV. I am sure this will also boast Skys share price, as some people may just go to sky to avoid the hassle.

It would depend on where you are located, but UHF freeview is cheaper to setup, as most people have already have UHF aerials that will work, so if STBs were just $50, that should be affordable to most.

For the satellite version I managed to install satelitte freeview in a rural area for just $150 with everything including dish and STB. Some installers however charge the earth for this service.

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  # 380760 16-Sep-2010 17:07

Zeon: Why not use the new UFB network to deliver TV, even if its just streaming normal broadcast channels?


Yes that is what it is going to end up being used for, but not ready yet, and probably won't have 100% coverage either.

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  # 380761 16-Sep-2010 17:07
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System: Has there been any announcements so far on when the Freeview|HD coverage is going to increase?


<quote> http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/switchover+digital+television+2013 </quote>

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  # 380773 16-Sep-2010 17:19
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wellygary:
System: Has there been any announcements so far on when the Freeview|HD coverage is going to increase?


http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/switchover+digital+television+2013

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Thanks for that, will be interesting to see when they are looking at doing this expansion




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