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  # 457633 11-Apr-2011 21:28
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I love how iTunes/Apple treats New Zealand as if it is a 3rd World country (Actually - I think a number of 3rd world countries got iTunes way before us :p). How long did it take us to actually get our own iTunes store... and we have to wait decades to get the TV programming and movies. Oh Yay.

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  # 457696 12-Apr-2011 08:47
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TechnoGuy001:
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TechnoGuy001: iTunes...?
But as far as I know stuff only appears on there after it has aired on NZ TV. 


I'm also interested if there is a legal alternative like Hulu. 


No TV on NZ's iTunes store..

Wow really!?
I thought they had added it. Just had a look and your right, even there movies are kinda... way behind.

Damn well there goes that idea then.

What about Tivo?
Or do they only do Movies too?
oh no "download the latest movies and TV shows straight to your TiVo!"... but not really much help to those of us with no tivo. 


I guess when they say "latest" they mean after they have aired on NZ TV... (I don't know though, I don't have one)


 

TiVo NZ is even worse.  Old movies and very little TV programs.. 




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  # 457702 12-Apr-2011 08:58
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How soon does the likes of TVNZ/TV3 on demand update?

I mean how long do you have to wait before a previously screened program is available to stream? Picture quality is a downside though obviously.

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  # 457709 12-Apr-2011 09:21
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keewee01: I love how iTunes/Apple treats New Zealand as if it is a 3rd World country (Actually - I think a number of 3rd world countries got iTunes way before us :p). How long did it take us to actually get our own iTunes store... and we have to wait decades to get the TV programming and movies. Oh Yay.


This is nothing to do with Apple, and everything to do with an outdated business model for the industry.

TV shows aren't automatically available because the business model is to sell shows to broadcasters. By letting Apple sell shows they're hurting their business model because broadcasters won't be willing to pay big $$ for shows when people can download the shows. In a big country such as the US this isn't such a big deal. In a small country like NZ it could be.

If you want to avoid this problem just use a US iTunes account and you'll have access to everything immediately when it's available in the USA.



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  # 457729 12-Apr-2011 10:40
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gurthang117: What is the best LEGAL online alternative to FTA for New Zealand?

Sometime later this year anyone interested enough will be able to view some, but not all, BBC programming using the global version of the BBC iPlayer at a maximum cost of US $10 per month.

Techwatch: BBC international iPlayer app

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  # 457743 12-Apr-2011 10:49
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sbiddle:

If you want to avoid this problem just use a US iTunes account and you'll have access to everything immediately when it's available in the USA.


It's been a while since I have done it but doesn't a US iTunes account require a US credit card?




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  # 457745 12-Apr-2011 10:52
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lchiu7:
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If you want to avoid this problem just use a US iTunes account and you'll have access to everything immediately when it's available in the USA.


It's been a while since I have done it but doesn't a US iTunes account require a US credit card?


And I think it checks which country your IP address is coming from too...

 
 
 
 


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  # 457749 12-Apr-2011 10:58
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A US iTunes account requires either a US credit card or US gift cards. There are plenty of ways to obtain these with a number of people selling the codes online.

There are no IP restrictions on the use of the account, however at one stage you did have to register a US account from a North American IP address for it to be valid.

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If that the case then you can probably buy the iTunes certificates from Amazon though while I see them listed, I have never bought one from them.




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  # 457798 12-Apr-2011 12:52
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Deev8:
gurthang117: What is the best LEGAL online alternative to FTA for New Zealand?

Sometime later this year anyone interested enough will be able to view some, but not all, BBC programming using the global version of the BBC iPlayer at a maximum cost of US $10 per month.

Techwatch: BBC international iPlayer app


This is definitely a step in the right direction, though it is a pity its not the same service that is offered in the UK.

If other broadcasters came out with similar subscriptions deals it would be better than waiting for shows to air in NZ!

Hopefully more broadcasters learn from the BBC's example

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Wow this is really crazy when they pull the plug on a TV program at such short notice that they don't have time to let the TV guides know.  I only found out about House when I turned on the TV to find MIB2 playing.

Currently amazon.co.uk is offering free delivery for orders over 25 quid.  I just bought the last 2 twilight for my daughter for under 5 pounds each (cost $32.99 each at Whitcoulls) as well as a load of other books.  Exchange rate is very favourable at the moment too.

I remember looking at the Doctor Who box sets recently that would have been half the cost of buying it here.  The only reason I didn't buy it was because Prime is showing it within a reasonable period of time.

So if you can legally purchase these programs/box sets from overseas on DVD, why do iTunes et-al force us to wait until it's been broadcast before allowing their purchase online?  This is where the business model needs to change (IMO).  If people can get them online easier (even legally) then the TV companies will need to bring forward the air dates to something more in line with the USA or UK.

Bit off topic I know, but is it really piracy, downloading a TV program that has already aired?  I'm sure it is!




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  # 457860 12-Apr-2011 15:02
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StarBlazer: So if you can legally purchase these programs/box sets from overseas on DVD, why do iTunes et-al force us to wait until it's been broadcast before allowing their purchase online? 


Keep in mind that you can only watch the DVDs that you purchase from overseas because DVD players commonly sold in New Zealand circumvent the DVD region coding scheme. The original intention was that any DVD player sold here would only play region 4 discs, and you wouldn't be able to play any region 1 discs bought from the USA or region 2 discs bought from the UK.

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  # 457862 12-Apr-2011 15:04
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Deev8:
StarBlazer: So if you can legally purchase these programs/box sets from overseas on DVD, why do iTunes et-al force us to wait until it's been broadcast before allowing their purchase online? 


Keep in mind that you can only watch the DVDs that you purchase from overseas because DVD players commonly sold in New Zealand circumvent the DVD region coding scheme. The original intention was that any DVD player sold here would only play region 4 discs, and you wouldn't be able to play any region 1 discs bought from the USA or region 2 discs bought from the UK.


Have I understood correctly that they have done away with region coding on Blu-Ray discs?




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  # 457933 12-Apr-2011 17:04
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StarBlazer:
Deev8:
StarBlazer: So if you can legally purchase these programs/box sets from overseas on DVD, why do iTunes et-al force us to wait until it's been broadcast before allowing their purchase online? 


Keep in mind that you can only watch the DVDs that you purchase from overseas because DVD players commonly sold in New Zealand circumvent the DVD region coding scheme. The original intention was that any DVD player sold here would only play region 4 discs, and you wouldn't be able to play any region 1 discs bought from the USA or region 2 discs bought from the UK.


Have I understood correctly that they have done away with region coding on Blu-Ray discs?


No, all blu-ray discs and systems have region coding built in. It is up to the content providers to make use of it. Up to 70% of blu-rays are region free (according to Wikipedia anyway).

Which makes one wonder, if the publishers don't care that everyone imports their blu-rays, why they haven't set up a system to make it easier for the international consumers to buy their products as in online streaming (Netflix, Hulu etc.)

The DVD region protection was a laughable exercise. Region free was regularly used as a selling point for many of the players right from the early days.




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Back to the original topic, and just in case anyone from TV3 reads this, I must that my wife & I we very excited to discover that we'd recorded the tail end of a MIB movie instead of House the other night.

It really made our evening - thanks TV3.




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