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  Reply # 474136 25-May-2011 20:30
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HowardA: GWF wrote:

the S7010PVR - Its user-interface as a PVR is fairly primitive - it is clearly a satellite tuner with USB/PVR bits added.  


I don't currently have one of the S7090's but I have been able to test one and can say that the user interface is entirely different to any other DishTV receivers so far. I would say that it has been purpose built from the ground up as it is so very easy to use. Hopefully they port the interface into their other receivers as it is awesome. 

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  Reply # 474142 25-May-2011 20:36
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Username01: Ought this unit get HD off TCN9 as well as from SBS?


In testing the S7090 it seems to be designed to be fully operational with all services. Although it is set up to auto scan Freeview services, it will also pick up any other services on D1 (SBS HD included) and can be used with a 22khz switch etc to use more than one dish.

The auto LNB search is nice, and it is programmed with more than just 11300 and 10750 so it seems to sort out any drifting LNB issues on some dishes. Very good for older folks (and wives). Nothing at all to do to set it up for Freeview.

As the chipset is DVB-S and DVB-S2 it will pick up all SD and HD satellite channels broadcast over NZ. Blind scan will find them if you have the dish.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 474148 25-May-2011 20:45
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xarqi: Some interesting features:
- series link;
- blind scan;
- MHEG-5;
- DVB-S2;
- 1080p - well - that's nice, but I'm not sure how significant or relevant it will be;

... but some limitations it seems from my reading of the specifications (so subject to correction):
- only able to record two services simultaneously (while viewing a third);
- no playback via LAN from a file server;
- no mention of streaming function to serve other devices on LAN;
- possible problems mentioned with decoding Sky;
- no provision for expansion of storage;
- unclear whether recorded files can be transferred from the box;
- tuners currently linked (but independence promised with a firmware fix).



Hey xarqi, good spotting with the needed extra features. From what I can find out, the limitations you have listed can all be resolved with software updates.

The 1080P is I can tell you very very good for an up-scaler. And by the way it plays mkv and mpg files via usb and upscales them very nicely.

Info I have heard is that each of the wished for features you have listed will be added in future firmware updates. Not that anyone should buy a box on possible updates, but nice to know that a box that runs very well with it's current features, has the capabilities to have some very cool features added by firmware update.

From what I know DishTV has designed this from the ground up, not taken an overseas PVR and adapted it, so I am thinking that firmware updates will be likely to happen, meaning these cool features should come available in the future.

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  Reply # 474153 25-May-2011 21:01
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gwf: ...with a bit of luck should have it by next weekend.


Looks like they are in store now at NL and Bond & Bond so you might have it before the weekend. And they are on their latest mailer. Look forward to your review of it as my info is a bit scarce as I no longer have it in front of me.

I also noticed today that FreeTV (already linked in this discussion) has them ready to sell, they sent out a mailer, so presumably Exquisite will also have them too.

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  Reply # 474161 25-May-2011 21:10
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xarqi: - possible problems mentioned with decoding Sky;


I am sorry for the silly amount of posts here instead of combining into one.

With this Sky decoding xarqi, when a receiver only has a CI slot (not a built-in card reader like some models) your options for reading Sky cards are severely reduced. Probably the only option is a Diablo CAM, which does work just fine for Sky cards on other satellite receivers with CI slots.

I have not personally tested one on the S7090, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. If someone has one and they can test it on the S7090 with an operational Sky card and it doesn't work (best to also check on another receiver so you know the Diablo and the Sky card are fine), then lets get that info to DishTV and have them try to resolve it.

In my opinion if you got your Sky card working on this DTR, you would happily use one DTR for all your TV watching - Sky, Freeview, SBS and all other FTA sat channels.

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  Reply # 474164 25-May-2011 21:16
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Mac2008:
gwf: ...with a bit of luck should have it by next weekend.


Looks like they are in store now at NL and Bond & Bond so you might have it before the weekend. And they are on their latest mailer. Look forward to your review of it as my info is a bit scarce as I no longer have it in front of me.


I had to laugh when the Noel Leeming brochure described it as a terrestrial satellite PVR...

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  Reply # 474187 25-May-2011 22:22
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Keep up the great work - I don't care how many posts good information is spread across.

I think you have a touch of wariness where I have a bucket of cynicism. Lots of those things could be fixed in firmware, sure, but will they be? All too often (and I'm looking at you, Microsoft), a major new version of a product is released with lots of bells and whistles nobody wants, and the chrome in slightly different places, with the flaws in earlier versions never having been addressed, and a whole new batch of blunders included for users to have the joy of finding. Did they ever fix sub-documents in Word? Have they figured out that it is possible to have text before Chapter 1 in a document? Harrumph.

Sorry - got a bit heated there, and strayed some. I guess my point is that the possibility of shortcomings being addressed doesn't always materialise. Still, from what you've written so far, even with the feature set it has, and assuming it proves to be reliable in implementation of these features, this model is definitely worth following I think. One of the big issues will be whether the transfer of recorded files gets implemented as this seems to be a no-no as far as Freeview certification is concerned.

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  Reply # 474217 26-May-2011 06:05
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Yes I am with you on the bucket of cynicism, lets hope this product is different.

I will be very interested in gwf's review, or anyone elses. I see you can upload images to your post. Perhaps you could post a few low res screen shots gwf?? It would be nice for possible purchasers to see the GUI before choosing as on the DishTV website the pdf user manual is not available yet which makes it hard to get some real info.

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  Reply # 474234 26-May-2011 08:03
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Dunnersfella: I had to laugh when the Noel Leeming brochure described it as a terrestrial satellite PVR...
Me too!

$499 though, this thing takes the prize for cheapest DVB-S2 with it's own hard drive.

The Vu+ Duo is more feature packed but for most users who don't want the networking side of things etc then this new unit should fill quite a gap.  About time given how long the freeview sat service has been in operation, but good to see something official here and ready.

gwf



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  Reply # 474518 26-May-2011 18:19
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Bond and Bond tell me I should have my pvr tomorrow.

Will do my best on the review, the dish on my house has not been used in the 2 years I've been here so fingers crossed I am not on here posting for help on fixing the thing.

Cheers

gwf

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  Reply # 474531 26-May-2011 19:10
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I am very interested in this unit, as I already have a sat dish and my terrestrial freeview reception is a bit hit and miss - some channels but not others. I too will be very interested in the review. Couple of questions I would love to know the answer to:

1. Can you use the loop connecter to connect a Sky box as well as this one to the same dish?
2. How well does it pick up SBS?
2. Can you transfer recordings off the inbuilt hard drive to a USB drive to watch in another room?
3. Can the you use the ethernet port for streaming files over the network, for watching in another room?

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  Reply # 474535 26-May-2011 19:59
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I see they have the pdf user manual available now and a firmware update??
http://www.dishtv.co.nz/Satellite-Receivers-satBox/11-DishTV-S7090-PVR-satBox-Ultra.htm 

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  Reply # 474761 27-May-2011 12:49
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Re connecting to the unit via the ethernet port and transporting recordings off etc, the official line is:

"there is no facility to remove recordings from the device but this functionality will be added in a later firmware release."

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  Reply # 474875 27-May-2011 16:41
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just got mu first shipment of these and installed the first one today,

First impression it is a very nice unit , well presented and nice GUI , very easy to navigate , tuned in all the Oz channels without putting in tp numbers including 9, Gem , And Go, I was very impressed


  Only a couple of drawbacks 1.  There is no RF modulator which is quit common with modern PVRs 2, unless ive missed something, because the epg is MHEG-5 it doesnt show any of the oz channels therefore no timer recording or series link


In my opinion an excellent PVR for the general public  




 

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  Reply # 474888 27-May-2011 17:42
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No EIT EPG support at all?

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