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Reply # 515668 2-Sep-2011 13:12

StarBlazer:

Might have to look at splitting the SKY as per JAXSON's notes. I see that the Sat decoder has only one dish input

Probably your best option. Don't know if MySky has a LNB out socket but the $89.95 box from the Freeview Shop has LNB loop through so you don't need a splitter. Just plug Coax into STB and out again to MySky or vice versa?

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Reply # 515689 2-Sep-2011 13:47

B1GGLZ: box from the Freeview Shop has LNB loop through so you don't need a splitter.

Watch this though as the first in line needs to be constantly on to power the LNB, meaning all subsequent units won't work unless the main is turned on. Not a biggy, but just something to watch out for.

Personally as well I'd opt for a freeview approved unit to make the setup easy and to get a good program guide. Despite popular opinion, the MHEG5 EPG is actually pretty good, especially in your case as it appears to be designed for use on an old school 4:3 CRT TV!

This for example

As I understand it the mysky unit has multiple tuners in it, so you can watch one channel whilst recording another. Technically these tuners can be used independently, so it has an input on the back for each one. That's why there are more inputs on the back, but as Cyril says, it can work fine with all the tuners looking at the same LNB. Hope that makes some sense!

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Reply # 515691 2-Sep-2011 13:49

If there is currently two LNB feeds to the MySky from a Quad output Sky LNB, then remove the feed to LNB2 and connect to your FreeView Sat box, job done.

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Reply # 515696 2-Sep-2011 13:53

cyril7: If there is currently two LNB feeds to the MySky from a Quad output Sky LNB, then remove the feed to LNB2 and connect to your FreeView Sat box, job done.

Cyril

Sweet as, just put a splitter on that 'LNB2" cable and you can feed 2 set top boxs from here.

If you can use a second feed as Cyril says, then something like this would be all you need.

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Reply # 515712 2-Sep-2011 14:08

Jaxson:
cyril7: If there is currently two LNB feeds to the MySky from a Quad output Sky LNB, then remove the feed to LNB2 and connect to your FreeView Sat box, job done.

Cyril

Sweet as, just put a splitter on that 'LNB2" cable and you can feed 2 set top boxs from here.

If you can use a second feed as Cyril says, then something like this would be all you need.

Hmm, so maybe the best plan is to take back the $50 aerial and get an $80 STB. I already bought a 3 way splitter from DSE so don't need to take that back.

Thanks for all your suggestions

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Reply # 515721 2-Sep-2011 14:21

StarBlazer:
Hmm, so maybe the best plan is to take back the $50 aerial and get an $80 STB. I already bought a 3 way splitter from DSE so don't need to take that back.

It's murky for sure. If you have sky then technically you don't need freeview HD on the main TV.

However, freeview HD on the main TV will give you the best picture and sound on some programs, assuming you don't have the HD ticket on mysky and you watch any free to air channels.

With the splitter, make sure it's rated for satellite use, and make sure it is an F connector type.

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Reply # 515729 2-Sep-2011 14:32

Jaxson:
StarBlazer:
Hmm, so maybe the best plan is to take back the $50 aerial and get an $80 STB. I already bought a 3 way splitter from DSE so don't need to take that back.

It's murky for sure. If you have sky then technically you don't need freeview HD on the main TV.

However, freeview HD on the main TV will give you the best picture and sound on some programs, assuming you don't have the HD ticket on mysky and you watch any free to air channels.

With the splitter, make sure it's rated for satellite use, and make sure it is an F connector type.

More good advice. If I install the aerial - I'm going to have to buy decoders anyway next year - so taking the aerial back now and buying a DVB-S decoder is a money saver in the long run.

But having the aerial means that the next time we get rain fade etc I would still have something to watch - and it seems a waste to not use the Freeview built into the TV.

Would DSE know if the splitter is rated for satellite use - I guess we'll see! Looking at the specs probably not - sigh.

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Reply # 515738 2-Sep-2011 14:43

That linked splitter will not be any good for Satellite, its 1GHz rated only.

Why do you need the splitter, or did I miss something, as I understand it you current have a My Sky which appears to have two LNB feeds to it and you want to add another FreeView Sat box to the mix, in which case just disconnect the LNB feed going to LNB2 input of the MySky and connect it to the new FreeView box, if you want more FreeView Sat boxs then use a splitter to split that feed.

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Reply # 515758 2-Sep-2011 15:07

cyril7: That linked splitter will not be any good for Satellite, its 1GHz rated only.

Why do you need the splitter, or did I miss something, as I understand it you current have a My Sky which appears to have two LNB feeds to it and you want to add another FreeView Sat box to the mix, in which case just disconnect the LNB feed going to LNB2 input of the MySky and connect it to the new FreeView box, if you want more FreeView Sat boxs then use a splitter to split that feed.

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No you're absolutely right. If I'm only getting one STB then I don't. I'm concerned/curious though as to why they connect two feeds if only one is needed. Is it just redundancy or will I lose a feature?

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Reply # 515761 2-Sep-2011 15:09

Sky originally had a plan to expand services to Optus D3 (in addition to D1) hence two feeds needed, but earlier this year they abandoned that and changed the requirement to only see D1, therefore only one feed needed.

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Reply # 515763 2-Sep-2011 15:11

Not rated for it, biggest issue isnt the freq range, but the fact that its not certain to have diodes and capacitors to pass the DC from all ports, some may end up as a short which makes set tops not too happy.

Its not like they intentionally limit the freq range of them, they just label some to 1000MHz, so that they can charge more for others labeled to 2050MHz etc

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Reply # 515764 2-Sep-2011 15:11

cyril7: Sky originally had a plan to expand services to Optus D3 (in addition to D1) hence two feeds needed, but earlier this year they abandoned that and changed the requirement to only see D1, therefore only one feed needed.

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Awesome - thanks for that.

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Reply # 515765 2-Sep-2011 15:12

cyril7: Why do you need the splitter, or did I miss something

Sorry if I'm confusing anyone, I just thought the OP wanted to feed 2x older CRT TVs, not just the one.

If indeed you are feeding just the one new set top box then yes, you can just use one of the two existing feeds to achieve this, with no splitter.

As I understand it you wont loose functionality by removing the second feed to the mysky box.

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Reply # 515768 2-Sep-2011 15:14

Jaxson:
cyril7: Why do you need the splitter, or did I miss something

Sorry if I'm confusing anyone, I just thought the OP wanted to feed 2x older CRT TVs, not just the one.

If indeed you are feeding just the one new set top box then yes, you can just use one of the two existing feeds to achieve this, with no splitter.

As I understand it you wont loose functionality by removing the second feed to the mysky box.

You are right - that was the original plan, but I only have enough $ for 1 STB. If I get another STB then I will worry about the right splitter.

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Reply # 515790 2-Sep-2011 15:43

StarBlazer:

Hmm, so maybe the best plan is to take back the $50 aerial and get an $80 STB.

But you then won't get HD on your TV. The built in tuner is HD and Freeview Sattelite is SD.

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