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Topic # 24430 23-Jul-2008 22:10
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Has anyone had any joy getting these two to speak to each other?

I have so far been able to get DVB-T working only with Cyberlink Powercinema 5.1 and would really love to get MCE working with the card too so I can stream the video over my home LAN and use my Xbox 360 as an extender.

I'm aware there is no native h.264 with mce and read some discussion about installing codecs from elsewhere to resolve it but...??

Anyway I hope I can strike up a chat here with gurus far wiser than me to try to resolve my prob Smile

Thanks in advance for your ideas, support..

Cheers, Paul

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  Reply # 150799 23-Jul-2008 22:53
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As far as i know no one has got Freeview HD working under MCE without major issues, i think the best so far was from the latest fiji release, but thats probably a time bombed beta, and its only an OEM official release.

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  Reply # 150811 24-Jul-2008 00:28
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paul151:
I'm aware there is no native h.264 with mce and read some discussion about installing codecs from elsewhere to resolve it but...??


you can install codecs which will allow you to play back h.264 content, but not to decode h.264 tv on the fly (except, as previously mentioned, in the leaked mce beta)




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  Reply # 150820 24-Jul-2008 06:46
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There is no support for H.264 broadcasts in Vista MCE and this is something we're unlikely to see and will have to wait until Windows to see.

H.264 support was planned for Fiji (an update for Vista MCE) and this was temporarily available in a leaked Beta, however this was pulled, in part because of the DRM restrictions being placed on Microsoft my content providers.

If you want to watch DVB-T you options are Cyberlink Powercinema (which should have come with the HVR4000), GB-PVR, Media Portal or DVBViewer.



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  Reply # 151560 26-Jul-2008 12:28
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paul151:
I'm aware there is no native h.264 with mce and read some discussion about installing codecs from elsewhere to resolve it but...??


you can install codecs which will allow you to play back h.264 content, but not to decode h.264 tv on the fly (except, as previously mentioned, in the leaked mce beta)


I'm picking these codecs are not the ones I have with Power Cinema?

Although I got Power Cinema working some time ago that too was fraught with probs and a lot of mucking around installing and uninstalling software to get the mix of apps just right.

I'm also wondering if I had a better codec I could reduce the CPU load under the current Power Cinema solution?



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  Reply # 151562 26-Jul-2008 12:30
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sbiddle: There is no support for H.264 broadcasts in Vista MCE and this is something we're unlikely to see and will have to wait until Windows to see.

H.264 support was planned for Fiji (an update for Vista MCE) and this was temporarily available in a leaked Beta, however this was pulled, in part because of the DRM restrictions being placed on Microsoft my content providers.

If you want to watch DVB-T you options are Cyberlink Powercinema (which should have come with the HVR4000), GB-PVR, Media Portal or DVBViewer.


Couple of questions sbiddle..

Which do you feel would work best for me Power Cinema or one of the other apps you mention? Any first hand experience of the pros/cons of each?

Is it worth trying to get the beta as a fix to my desire to get Vista MCE working with my card? Can anyone confirm it's a time bombed update or will it still fly (all be it with what ever probs) in a few months?

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  Reply # 151696 26-Jul-2008 23:52
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sbiddle: There is no support for H.264 broadcasts in Vista MCE and this is something we're unlikely to see and will have to wait until Windows to see.

H.264 support was planned for Fiji (an update for Vista MCE) and this was temporarily available in a leaked Beta, however this was pulled, in part because of the DRM restrictions being placed on Microsoft my content providers.


that post sounds very factual when it is (as far as i know) all based on heresay and rumours...  how about we wait until they release some official news, or the actual update before we make statemets like this..




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  Reply # 151731 27-Jul-2008 10:22
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Regs:
that post sounds very factual when it is (as far as i know) all based on heresay and rumours...  how about we wait until they release some official news, or the actual update before we make statemets like this..


The no denying that DRM / copy protection has played a very important in Vista and that MS have gone down the path of ensuring that they do keep content providers happy.

With HD content content owners/providers seem seem focussed on a date where the ICT flag will have to be enforced and do not want people to have an easy way to record H.264 content. I've been told by several good sources that issues such as this have been a headache - enforcing the ICT flag would require that the PC could only view H.264 (or other HD) content only with a HDCP compliant HDMI connection and issues in the way Vista MCE handles content at present could have allowed somebody to create a 3rd party H.264 codec that doesn't actually decode the video but instead write it straight to HD.

You are right that it's all heresay but the reality is when these comments do come from well informed sources and do fit in with the way the industry is going then you can't easily discount them.

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