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  Reply # 876951 14-Aug-2013 10:30
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Look up license number: 239573




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  Reply # 876954 14-Aug-2013 10:34
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Licensee 134726 VODAFONE NEW ZEALAND LIMITED
Licence Status Current Licence Type Other >=30dBW (Spectrum) Fixed Term Yes Licence ID 164641
Commencement 01-Aug-2013 Application ID 34333Expiry 28-Nov-2016 Licence Number 239573 
Mgmt. Right ID 257 (944.800000 - 960.000000 MHz)
Certified On 24-Jul-2013 Registered On 01-Aug-2013 Spectrum Details
ChannelLow (MHz)High (MHz)Ref. Freq. (MHz)Power dBW (eirp)EmissionPolarisation
944.800000960.000000951.950000 45.015M2XXXMixed
Site Details - Transmit Location
Location NameGrid Reference
MANAWARU (VFNZ) BD35 409.22 288.05
Site Details - Receive Protection Location
Location NameGrid ReferenceMPIS
MANAWARU VFNZ PA BC34 108.87 587.99
BC36 709.12 589.08 BE36 710.13 988.70 BE34 109.84 987.82
23.0 dBµV/m
 




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  Reply # 876955 14-Aug-2013 10:37
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coffeebaron: Look up license number: 239573


That is simply because it was "Registered On 01-Aug-2013" whereas my website and latest KML are generated from SMART as of 15-July-13.

I'll look into generating a newer KML in the next day or two. Updating the website is a little more complex.

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  Reply # 877070 14-Aug-2013 12:15
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coffeebaron: Look up license number: 239573


That is simply because it was "Registered On 01-Aug-2013" whereas my website and latest KML are generated from SMART as of 15-July-13.

I'll look into generating a newer KML in the next day or two. Updating the website is a little more complex.


Ah, they were a bit late. It's been there a whole year now.




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  Reply # 877083 14-Aug-2013 12:23
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KiwiSurfer:Probably just a Google Maps issue with large numbers of markers (as has been mentioned earlier). You could work around it by providing separte maps for each network and/or splitting the maps into regions.

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I was informed by a googler that when you have a large number of markers it often won't display all of them, however a fusion table does. Try using a location table and then embedding it as a map.

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  Reply # 878050 14-Aug-2013 12:28
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KiwiSurfer:Probably just a Google Maps issue with large numbers of markers (as has been mentioned earlier). You could work around it by providing separte maps for each network and/or splitting the maps into regions.

- James


I was informed by a googler that when you have a large number of markers it often won't display all of them, however a fusion table does. Try using a location table and then embedding it as a map.


I am using fusion tables map because the standard maps api can't cope with the number of points, but fusion still has a problem with multiple points on the same location only showing one pin. There are probably ways to work around it, and I have been wanting to provide an option to just show certain networks, but as always never enough time in the day.

Btw the KML files load surprisingly well in Google Earth for Android given there are so many points.

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  Reply # 878114 14-Aug-2013 14:34
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2degrees seem to be doing a lot of work lately. Today I saw people working at their Bastion Point and their Westhaven sites. Also have observed them changing their 2G cell broadcast text at some of their sites -- from human readable text to more cryptic site IDs. For example I'm currently getting '007-WSTH-G09-1-1' here in Wynard Quarter off I'm guessing their Westhaven site. I presume these are part of this work adjusting their exisiting GSM900 network.

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  Reply # 878130 14-Aug-2013 14:42
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SaltyNZ:
coffeebaron:
kiwitrc:
sbiddle:
SaltyNZ:
sbiddle: It's been a long time since I looked at the map but it does appear to be missing quite a few sites that are in the PRISM database. I wonder if it's an issue with the number of elements that can be displayed?




Maybe Snowden just had an old copy.


I don't think so, there are areas in Wgtn for example where XT and VF sites that have literally been around forever aren't showing.



Oh dear.

I know of a few Vodafone sites too that don't show up.


Double oh dear.


Maybe it's a new Vodafone and Telecom ploy to stop a repeat of the infamous 2degrees nationwide tour and photo opportunity at every cellsite in the country! :-)


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  Reply # 878232 14-Aug-2013 17:07
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sbiddle:
Maybe it's a new Vodafone and Telecom ploy to stop a repeat of the infamous 2degrees nationwide tour and photo opportunity at every cellsite in the country! :-)


We 2degrees here today with our giant LOGO, to celebrate construction of our new tower, the first to supply... what's that?? Oh blast, what's that doing there! My KML file shows now Telecom or Vodafone here. Right off to the com com about this one!




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  Reply # 878309 14-Aug-2013 19:24
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coffeebaron:
sbiddle:
Maybe it's a new Vodafone and Telecom ploy to stop a repeat of the infamous 2degrees nationwide tour and photo opportunity at every cellsite in the country! :-)


We 2degrees here today with our giant LOGO, to celebrate construction of our new tower, the first to supply... what's that?? Oh blast, what's that doing there! My KML file shows now Telecom or Vodafone here. Right off to the com com about this one!


No, no, no. It was about me making an Edward Snowden joke concerning the PRISM database. Sheesh!




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  Reply # 878346 14-Aug-2013 20:12
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Ah, so if you don't want the NSA to snoop your call, use one of the towers not on the PRISM database.




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I've been messing around with RSM/SMART and Fusion Tables APIs. Output here.

Automatically updates every Monday night (RSM updates their Smart DB Monday lunch time). Consolidates licences based on location. Assumes that if the Lat/Long is the same on two licences, it's actually two different transmitters on the same tower. Also marks "new" licences compared to the last database as well.

Off topic for this forum, but the example I've got right now, over the last week Telecom registered a crap load of LTE licences in Wellington and Christchurch:




The Vodafone LTE markers need to be taken with a grain of salt. At the moment there's no way I can tell programmatically if a Vodafone 1800MHz licence is LTE/2G or just 2G. If someone had that info - Would be awesome.

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stubbed: The Vodafone LTE markers need to be taken with a grain of salt. At the moment there's no way I can tell programmatically if a Vodafone 1800MHz licence is LTE/2G or just 2G. If someone had that info - Would be awesome.


You could look at the start date. If start date is prior to the start of the LTE rollout you can safely assume it's GSM-1800 (most likely along with LTE-1800). Those after the rollout are most likely LTE-1800 only. I'm pretty sure Vodafone has not added any more GSM-1800 cells recently but John Reader will correct me if I'm wrong.

Another way could be to look at the licence location name -- some of the GSM-1800 site are noted as such (e.g. SYMONDS STREET 1800) while I presume they haven't bothred with this for LTE.

I wonder if there might be other hints in the licence data that could suggest whether it is using used for LTE/GSM or not.

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  Reply # 890422 5-Sep-2013 16:15
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That's the frustrating thing - All of Vodafone's 1800MHz licences appear to have been removed, and reregistered. The oldest Commencement Date for a Vodafone 1800MHz licence is 2012-11-12, about when they would have started rolling out LTE. There's also only 10 Vodafone locations that have "1800" in the name, which I could exclude, but it would be a manual exclusion. Not really ideal, and still leaves ~290 other locations.

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  Reply # 890425 5-Sep-2013 16:21
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stubbed: That's the frustrating thing - All of Vodafone's 1800MHz licences appear to have been removed, and reregistered. The oldest Commencement Date for a Vodafone 1800MHz licence is 2012-11-12, about when they would have started rolling out LTE. There's also only 10 Vodafone locations that have "1800" in the name, which I could exclude, but it would be a manual exclusion. Not really ideal, and still leaves ~290 other locations.


Is it possible for you to get data for the cancelled licences? Using the RSM website I can search for cancelled licences which yields Vodafone 1800MHz licences dating back to October 2001.

- James

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