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  # 1002145 10-Mar-2014 15:29
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menabassily: So the information we know so far is: it's going to be 2014 which means they are working on it. Also the frequency is 700 Mhz

http://www.computerworld.co.nz/article/487906/bnz_backs_2degrees_4g_rollout/


They will not be relying on 700Mhz at launch, I can assure you that. Building a network when there are no handsets to use on it isn't the smartest idea in the world.



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  # 1002147 10-Mar-2014 15:39
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Actually I am happy they're going with 700 Mhz as my Moto X supports this freq and not the initial Europe LTE frequency

 
 
 
 


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  # 1002149 10-Mar-2014 15:41
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menabassily: Actually I am happy they're going with 700 Mhz as my Moto X supports this freq and not the initial Europe LTE frequency


See Steves reply above

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  # 1002157 10-Mar-2014 15:48
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That suck for me then, Moto X only supports 1800 for 2G. The Europe Version does support LTE on 1800 though. Now I know why they didn't bring the Moto X to NZ.

It does support LTE on 700 Mhz though so that comment about 700 Mhz phone being released after December 2014 isn't true, maybe it is for NZ.

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menabassily: That suck for me then, Moto X only supports 1800 for 2G. The Europe Version does support LTE on 1800 though. Now I know why they didn't bring the Moto X to NZ.

It does support LTE on 700 Mhz though so that comment about 700 Mhz phone being released after December 2014 isn't true, maybe it is for NZ.

That won't be LTE 700 APT band :(





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  # 1002163 10-Mar-2014 15:58
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Hmmm, so looking at this:

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

4G Network
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

Would I be able to use 2degrees' 4G or any NZ 4G at all?

Here is the European version bands support

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for Europe

4G Network
LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 - for Europe

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menabassily: That suck for me then, Moto X only supports 1800 for 2G. The Europe Version does support LTE on 1800 though. Now I know why they didn't bring the Moto X to NZ.

It does support LTE on 700 Mhz though so that comment about 700 Mhz phone being released after December 2014 isn't true, maybe it is for NZ.


There are no phones on the market that support APC band 28 which is what NZ will use. It doesn't matter what your phone supports 700, it will be one of the US 700 bands (bands 12 and 17) which are completely different and not compatible.

Expect to see the first devices supporting band 28 on the market by probably mid 2014






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  # 1002174 10-Mar-2014 15:59
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menabassily: Hmmm, so looking at this:

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

4G Network
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

Would I be able to use 2degrees' 4G or any NZ 4G at all?

Here is the European version bands support

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for Europe

4G Network
LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 - for Europe


If you have the European model, yes.

If you have the US model, no.


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  # 1002175 10-Mar-2014 16:00
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I see. I guess I should have done better job researching this :)

Thanks guys

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  # 1002176 10-Mar-2014 16:00
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menabassily: Hmmm, so looking at this:

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

4G Network
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

Would I be able to use 2degrees' 4G or any NZ 4G at all?

Here is the European version bands support

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for Europe

4G Network
LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 - for Europe


If you have the European model, yes.

If you have the US model, no.



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menabassily: Hmmm, so looking at this:

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

4G Network
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

Would I be able to use 2degrees' 4G or any NZ 4G at all?

Here is the European version bands support

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for Europe

4G Network
LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 - for Europe


Does this mean an iPhone 5s model A1530 (Asia-Pacific Model) will work? It apparently supports "FDD-LTE bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20 and TD-LTE bands 38, 39, and 40"

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JoshWright:
menabassily: Hmmm, so looking at this:

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

4G Network
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

Would I be able to use 2degrees' 4G or any NZ 4G at all?

Here is the European version bands support

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for Europe

4G Network
LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 - for Europe


Does this mean an iPhone 5s model A1530 (Asia-Pacific Model) will work? It apparently supports "FDD-LTE bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20 and TD-LTE bands 38, 39, and 40"


It will work on the 1800Mhz network (band 3) and Vodafone's 2600 network (band 38) but no, it won't work on the 700Mhz APT band which is band 28 as mentioned above.


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  # 1002215 10-Mar-2014 17:19
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I suspect DoCoMo in japan will be th first to release handsets with Band 28.

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Telstra expect to have 700 MHz supported handsets for the apt band plan in the next two months.

As the Australians will not have full dso till the end of the year and release of the 700 spectrum, one winners if they will lock out 700 MHz radios until spectrum is available. Similar to the handset manufacturer having to switch on lte at 1800 for specific neteorks and devices hete

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  # 1002239 10-Mar-2014 18:10
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Guess 2D won't be buying Orcon then..




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