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Topic # 198931 28-Jul-2016 15:20
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2degrees today announced the successful activation of its 100GbE interconnect to the Southern Cross Cable Network, driven by the massive growth of content providers such as Netflix fuelling New Zealanders’ demand for data.

 

2degrees Chief Fixed Officer Mark Petrie said 2degrees has experienced incredible growth in 2016 and is currently doubling its capacity year-on-year following the proliferation of major overseas content providers such as Netflix, Microsoft, Google and Apple.

 

“This is fantastic for 2degrees customers, the enabling of our 100GbE interconnect into Southern Cross allows us access to uncontested capacity giving us the ability to provide more data, faster.

 

“It also means we’re the first customer to connect to Southern Cross’ new Carrier Ethernet platform and we’ll continue to work closely with Southern Cross to continually innovate and take advantage of technology advances to enhance the value that 2degrees can bring to its mobile and broadband customers across New Zealand.”

 

Southern Cross Director Marketing, Craige Sloots said, “With the growth of content and cloud demand it is not surprising that Carrier Ethernet based services such as Southern Cross’ new Gigapac service, have become increasingly popular and dominate the requested capacity service types for many providers including Southern Cross.”

 

“Working with thought-leading and collaborative organisations is critical in helping us to define, develop and test product solutions with our supplier partners to meet changing market demands.”

 





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  Reply # 1600280 28-Jul-2016 16:13
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That is pretty darned cool. 


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  Reply # 1600285 28-Jul-2016 16:40
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Is that for the mobile network customers, or does it apply to the ex-snap side too? 





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  Reply # 1600292 28-Jul-2016 17:11
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timmmay:

Is that for the mobile network customers, or does it apply to the ex-snap side too? 

 

I'd be truly impressed if mobile growth alone was enough to justify that kind of connection. I highly suspect it'll have the fixed line services in mind.

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  Reply # 1600306 28-Jul-2016 18:21
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Interesting play to make, will be interested to see its effect on traffic.





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  Reply # 1600307 28-Jul-2016 18:26
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Why do you need extra SXC capacity for CDN content? smile


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  Reply # 1600336 28-Jul-2016 20:26
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Why do you need extra SXC capacity for CDN content? smile

 

 

 

 

Those CDN's don't fill themselves, they actually take a sh** ton of capacity to keep them filled


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  Reply # 1600393 28-Jul-2016 23:25
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Southern Cross Director Marketing, Craige Sloots said, “With the growth of content and cloud demand it is not surprising that Carrier Ethernet based services such as Southern Cross’ new Gigapac service, have become increasingly popular and dominate the requested capacity service types for many providers including Southern Cross.”

 

Whoops, seems they copy & pasted their press release off the Ciena Southern Cross joint press release

 

100 Gbps is not new in the UFB world, pretty sure most of the larger players have 100 Gbps running up and down the country as part of their domestic core networks today. You have to also think about it in terms of redundancy though :/


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  Reply # 1601220 30-Jul-2016 09:46
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noroad:

sbiddle:


Why do you need extra SXC capacity for CDN content? smile



 


Those CDN's don't fill themselves, they actually take a sh** ton of capacity to keep them filled


Utter nonsense. CDNs fill from midnight until 6amish or whenever your network usage is lightest. As an operator you specify when you want it to fill. You make up for any filling 10 fold and then some.
So I am with Steve on this one. Netflix should be considered all domestic traffic due to having a local CDNs.
You need to scale to the Sunday peak from 8pm to 11pm.





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  Reply # 1601253 30-Jul-2016 11:19
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BarTender:
noroad:

 

sbiddle:

 

Why do you need extra SXC capacity for CDN content? smile

 

 

Those CDN's don't fill themselves, they actually take a sh** ton of capacity to keep them filled

 


Utter nonsense. CDNs fill from midnight until 6amish or whenever your network usage is lightest. As an operator you specify when you want it to fill. You make up for any filling 10 fold and then some.
So I am with Steve on this one. Netflix should be considered all domestic traffic due to having a local CDNs.
You need to scale to the Sunday peak from 8pm to 11pm.

 

 

 

I was going to comment but then I saw this and it covers what I was going to say. (Oh, and it's correct too, at least for Netflix which was the example given)

 

Cheers - N

 

ps. 1am to 1pm is the default Netflix fill window


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  Reply # 1601270 30-Jul-2016 11:25
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BarTender:
noroad:

 

sbiddle:

 

 

 

Why do you need extra SXC capacity for CDN content? smile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those CDN's don't fill themselves, they actually take a sh** ton of capacity to keep them filled

 


Utter nonsense. CDNs fill from midnight until 6amish or whenever your network usage is lightest. As an operator you specify when you want it to fill. You make up for any filling 10 fold and then some.
So I am with Steve on this one. Netflix should be considered all domestic traffic due to having a local CDNs.
You need to scale to the Sunday peak from 8pm to 11pm.

 

Not enitrely true, Its really only Netflix that operate like this, the likes of Google GGC pull data through on a constant basis and the infill from AU to NZ Google Nodes is significant, aparently google alone is pushing more than 100G of infill traffic from AU to NZ.

 

The article does not specifically say that its cache infill, its that there are lots of CDN's based in Australia that dont have NZ based nodes (Limelight, AWS, Office 365 etc), the data pull from AU -> NZ is getting close to USA -> NZ.


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  Reply # 1601272 30-Jul-2016 11:29
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While it's correct that only Netflix operate a complete push model, the other major CDNs (Google and Akamai) are still pretty good, and the larger and more distributed your deployments get, the better they work in terms of using cache to cache fill operations and avoiding going upstream.

 

The other CDNs are a drop in the bucket compared to the big 3*. Pretty much rounding errors...

 

 

 

Cheers - N

 

 

 

* At the moment, in NZ.


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  Reply # 1601275 30-Jul-2016 11:39
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Is CloudFlare significant? They have an Auckland node.





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  Reply # 1601285 30-Jul-2016 11:51
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timmmay:

 

Is CloudFlare significant? They have an Auckland node.

 

 

 

 

I'm genuinely not sure how much of the Cloudflare traffic this captures... There are other sources as well like APE

 

http://monitor.akl-ix.nz/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=18&rra_id=all

 

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  Reply # 1601307 30-Jul-2016 12:14
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Talkiet:

 

timmmay:

 

Is CloudFlare significant? They have an Auckland node.

 

 

 

 

I'm genuinely not sure how much of the Cloudflare traffic this captures... There are other sources as well like APE

 

http://monitor.akl-ix.nz/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=18&rra_id=all

 

N

 

 

 

 

On that note Talkiet any plans for Spark to pair with Cloudflare in NZ? seems a shame to be using NZ - AU capacity (and additional latency) when much of the content is avalaible off their NZ CDN's, Geekzone is a good example.


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  Reply # 1601309 30-Jul-2016 12:17
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pchs:

 

Talkiet:

 

timmmay:

 

Is CloudFlare significant? They have an Auckland node.

 

 

 

 

I'm genuinely not sure how much of the Cloudflare traffic this captures... There are other sources as well like APE

 

http://monitor.akl-ix.nz/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=18&rra_id=all

 

N

 

 

 

 

On that note Talkiet any plans for Spark to pair with Cloudflare in NZ? seems a shame to be using NZ - AU capacity (and additional latency) when much of the content is avalaible off their NZ CDN's, Geekzone is a good example.

 

 

Sorry, the official word is that we wouldn't pre-announce or commit to timeframes for what is essentially a small network optimisation. We are continuously looking at ways to improve the user experience and reduce our costs and all the options have to be prioritised. It's logical we're going to spend the money on the pieces of work that deliver the biggest bang for our buck.

 

 

 

Cheers - N

 

 


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