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Topic # 236439 1-Jun-2018 23:23
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I've recently been testing my newly minted Gig Fibre connection.  There's nothing quite like seeing 100MB/s coming down via the Internet!

 

However, one area which seems to be lacking (at least for me) is international upload speeds to anywhere other than Aus.

 

Now, I realise that there are a lot of elements involved in a connection between me and an overseas server, however, I get pretty decent download speeds, but disproportionately abysmal upload speeds:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aussie is pretty good:

 

 

One of the major attractions with Fibre for me was access to significantly better upload speeds, but I'm pretty disappointed in the speeds I'm getting in this regard.

 

What are the rest of you seeing in terms of international upload speeds?


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  Reply # 2027322 1-Jun-2018 23:36
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test to the 2degrees host. that is the link you are paying for in reality








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  Reply # 2027325 1-Jun-2018 23:50
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Speed to the 2Degrees host is brilliant - full line speed:

 

 

But I disagree that 'that's the link I'm paying for'; the point of the Internet is to connect you to the world, not just your ISP! :)

 

Anyway, I don't want to get into a discussion about that; I'm interested in what others are seeing upload speed wise to international locations.


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  Reply # 2027453 2-Jun-2018 11:55
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Just tested the same locations you did (plus a few others) and you're not kidding. I swear when I've done international tests before they haven't been this bad. Each of the locations you listed I tried multiple speedtest servers and apart from NZ (which in itself seems a bit hit and miss) & Oz they are all way below what I'd expect - both on the down and uplink.


 


I'm on 2degrees gigabit fibre (based in Auckland), during the tests (ran on my PC connected by gigabit ethernet) I disabled wifi and unplugged everything else from the Fritz, and the Fritz itself showed data usage was pretty much zero when I was running the tests so nothing else using the connection.





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  Reply # 2027485 2-Jun-2018 13:10
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I'm seeing the same thing...

 

Citylink - Wellington: 1ms, 870Mbit down, 420Mbit up.
ACSData - Wellington: 1ms, 774Mbit down, 383Mbit up.
2degrees - Christchurch: 7ms, 611Mbit down, 450Mbit up.
2degrees - Auckland: 12ms, 452Mbit down, 467Mbit up.
Internode - Sydney: 35ms, 489Mbit down, 250Mbit up.
WebNX - Los Angeles: 179ms, 75Mbit down, 20Mbit up.
Speedtest.net - Washington, DC: 101Mbit down, 21Mbit up.
Singtel - Singapore: 349ms, 24Mbit down, 3Mbit up.

 

Speeds are dropping rather quickly - This is tested on the Windows 10 app via Ethernet. I get a whole 2Mbit from some servers I've got in the EU (where I used to get around 200Mbit) so something has changed. At first I thought it was just me.

 

@NickMack you got any ideas? I can provide access to a host via SSH if you'd like to do any further testing from my connection.







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  Reply # 2027533 2-Jun-2018 16:38
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Wow @c0ld, that's some comprehensive testing! :)

 

Ok, so it's not just me then!

 

Also, for the record, I'm seeing these kinds of speeds regardless of time of day, including at 2am.  Always tested on a wired connection.


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SamF:

 

Speed to the 2Degrees host is brilliant - full line speed:

 

 

But I disagree that 'that's the link I'm paying for'; the point of the Internet is to connect you to the world, not just your ISP! :)

 

Anyway, I don't want to get into a discussion about that; I'm interested in what others are seeing upload speed wise to international locations.

 

 

 

 

Actually no, you're paying for the link to your ISP. MOST of the internet (excluding CDNs) is not under the control of your ISP. There are things they can do to help in some cases, but you are not paying to have full speed access to the whole internet Because That's Not The Way Things Work.

 

Cheers - N

 

 


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  Reply # 2027555 2-Jun-2018 17:46
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(That said, it seems slower than I would expect, and a quick test on my 100M fibre line shows higher UL speeds (even with only a ~20Mbps upstream) than a lot of your tests.

 

Cheers - N

 

 


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  Reply # 2027596 2-Jun-2018 19:09
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Talkiet:

 

(That said, it seems slower than I would expect, and a quick test on my 100M fibre line shows higher UL speeds (even with only a ~20Mbps upstream) than a lot of your tests.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

every time you say this, i swear something dies inside.

 

 

 

So much potential, so little utilization!





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  Reply # 2027604 2-Jun-2018 19:37
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Talkiet:

 

Actually no, you're paying for the link to your ISP. MOST of the internet (excluding CDNs) is not under the control of your ISP. There are things they can do to help in some cases, but you are not paying to have full speed access to the whole internet Because That's Not The Way Things Work.

 

 

 

 

I'm not asking for full speed access to the whole internet; I'm a tech, I know how these things work, but as you mentioned, the upload speeds we're seeing are sub-optimal.

 

And ISPs CAN do something about it; on a competing ISP's service I can get far higher speeds to the same destinations.  ISPs are responsible for providing international connectivity to their subscribers, that's why I am a customer; so that I can get connected to the rest of the world.

 

 


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SamF:

 

I'm not asking for full speed access to the whole internet; I'm a tech, I know how these things work, but as you mentioned, the upload speeds we're seeing are sub-optimal.

 

 

have you tried increasing your snr to reduce upstream errors? might help a little ;)





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hio77:

 

have you tried increasing your snr to reduce upstream errors? might help a little ;)

 

 

 

 

HAHAHA, classic!!

 

I did try to get into the ONT to take a look at what settings are there, but alas I don't have the details on how to access it. :(




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Nice! :)

 

Can you plug into another of the available ports or does it have to be LAN1?

 

Any username / password required?

 

 


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SamF:

 

Nice! :)

 

Can you plug into another of the available ports or does it have to be LAN1?

 

Any username / password required?

 

 

You must connect it over pots2, use a RJ11 2 pair cable. (4 conductors)

 

 

 

 

 

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  Reply # 2027627 2-Jun-2018 20:10
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Wow, bit of a process there!

 

Is there much to see in the config?


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SamF:

 

Wow, bit of a process there!

 

Is there much to see in the config?

 

 

well it's designed to keep folks out...

 

 

 

you can do all the things in there!





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