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  #2321756 21-Sep-2019 00:30
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I'm going to just go with Spark I think. Can't hold out much longer as my dodgy charging connector + 16 GB storage are driving me up the wall.


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  #2321781 21-Sep-2019 06:56
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I might end up having to do that as well. It'll be a shame to migrate a 10y old account and also loose the shared data for my iPad, but if that's the only option I've got to avoid carrying two phones then that's what'll have to happen.

Still hoping spark start fully supporting esim for business accounts, or 2d start supporting personal accounts before the IT team at work cull the last Android phones.




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  #2342701 23-Oct-2019 21:49
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Been a month, and tomorrow is D Day for buying my iPhone. Any word on 2degrees eSIM or even trials? Not betting on there being any, but I'd really like to not have to transfer my 10 year old account to Spark just to maintain my dual sim functionality. :)

 

 

 

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  #2342776 24-Oct-2019 07:58
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Hmmm, this is dragging now.

 

Regardless of what people may think of eSim and how it works, the reality is some providers have it and some dont, and that is starting to create a barrier.

 

I like the multi-identity possibility of this - thinking more than just 2 sims - and even if the market potential is relatively small, when others have it and you dont - you're hosed.





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#2342781 24-Oct-2019 08:04
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2D Same with VoLTE and SparkNZ has both eSIM and VoLTE


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  #2342784 24-Oct-2019 08:05
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Esim isn't exactly like a click of a button... There is Alot for a provider to work through.




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  #2342791 24-Oct-2019 08:31
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hio77: Esim isn't exactly like a click of a button... There is Alot for a provider to work through.

 

 

 

As someone who has no vision on the work required I'll defer to your judgement on that :)

 

However, the 2d website did say it was coming "later in 2019" as part of the Apple iPhone XR and XS sales blurb. Unless they forgot to delete that line from amongst the standard stuff Apple provides to sellers, that would indicate they've been working on it; given our proximity to 2020, the tongue in cheek comment of "Soon" should more more true than ever.





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  #2343123 24-Oct-2019 16:14
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hio77: Esim isn't exactly like a click of a button... There is Alot for a provider to work through.

 

Having recently spoken with someone who was directly involved in the deployment with one NZ provider. It is quite complicated with a LOT of validation activity done by Apple before launch.

 

It wouldn't surprise me at all if it would take 12 months from inception to delivery for most mobile providers.

 

And I seem to remember that the eSIM provisioning process is different between Apple and Samsung and other device manufacturers where on-prem hardware is required for each.

 

Perhaps 2D just isn't big enough in Apple's eyes to be worth doing, or the Apple Tax isn't worth the investment from 2D.

 

But all of the above is purely speculatory involved with chatting with a fella over beers about it.





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  #2343150 24-Oct-2019 16:26
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BarTender:

 

And I seem to remember that the eSIM provisioning process is different between Apple and Samsung and other device manufacturers where on-prem hardware is required for each.

 

 

Yup, if only we had standards.... oh wait we do, Software Vendors just choose to implement their own better ones....

 

 

 

Just wait till Hauwei OS comes around...





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  #2343175 24-Oct-2019 17:19
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I gave up and switched to a Spark eSIM when I got my new phone a couple of weeks back (also purchased from Spark). Now I can have one phone for personal and work! Between this and the CGNAT debacle I'm starting to cool to 2D.


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  #2343176 24-Oct-2019 17:25
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Tracer:

 

I gave up and switched to a Spark eSIM when I got my new phone a couple of weeks back (also purchased from Spark). Now I can have one phone for personal and work! Between this and the CGNAT debacle I'm starting to cool to 2D.

 

 

Spark moved bigpipe and skinny away from cgnat rather than moving users to cgnat... your welcome to join there too ;)





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So 2degrees promised esim "by the end of 2019". Only 22 days to go to meet that promise and network brownout just around the corner hmm..



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myfullflavour: So 2degrees promised esim "by the end of 2019". Only 22 days to go to meet that promise and network brownout just around the corner hmm..

 

 

 

i didnt recall seeing this 🤣


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  #2371108 9-Dec-2019 12:56
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Yeah, no way anyone actually promised that!





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  #2371112 9-Dec-2019 12:59
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myfullflavour: So 2degrees promised esim "by the end of 2019". Only 22 days to go to meet that promise and network brownout just around the corner hmm..

 

@myfullflavour Link to where this was advised?


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