Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4
19282 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2600
Inactive user


  Reply # 188464 9-Jan-2009 20:39
Send private message

PenultimateHop:
steveonz: As reading another post it seems that most people when they arrive in NZ automatically roam on the NZ comms network. This could be an excellent strategy to make extra cash.

At a guess, the reason why people seem to get NZ Comms on arrival is that their signal strength on the taxiways and apron at Auckland airport seems to be particularly good, vs. Vodafone which is marginal/non-existent.


Sorry come again?

637 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 2

Trusted

  Reply # 188465 9-Jan-2009 20:41
Send private message

johnr: Sorry come again?

What was unclear?

Minimalist
5487 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 415

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 188467 9-Jan-2009 20:46
Send private message

What he meant John was while you are in an aeroplane Vodafone's signal isn't that strong but NZComms is - witnessed that myself.

19282 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2600
Inactive user


  Reply # 188468 9-Jan-2009 20:47
Send private message

Vodafone which is marginal/non-existent.

Do you mean the coverage at Auckland Airport?

637 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 2

Trusted

  Reply # 188469 9-Jan-2009 20:48
Send private message

johnr: Vodafone which is marginal/non-existent.

Do you mean the coverage at Auckland Airport?

That is correct.

Vodafone's signal coverage outside the terminal building (i.e. airbridges, ramp area, taxiways) is pretty marginal in my experience.

ajw



1411 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 127


  Reply # 190586 19-Jan-2009 19:14
Send private message

ajw:

It appears that NZ Comms have turned on some of their cellsites in the Hutt Valley. NZ 24 coverage is now available from Petone up to Waterloo. Have not had a chance yet to check further up the valley.



Did a coverage check on both levels of Westfield Mall, Lower Hutt today. Even where the Vodafone coverage drops out on the lower level, by the North end escalator I still retained NZ 24 signal even outside the $2 shop at the North end, Lower level.

26933 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6377

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 190597 19-Jan-2009 20:02
Send private message

ajw:
ajw:

It appears that NZ Comms have turned on some of their cellsites in the Hutt Valley. NZ 24 coverage is now available from Petone up to Waterloo. Have not had a chance yet to check further up the valley.



Did a coverage check on both levels of Westfield Mall, Lower Hutt today. Even where the Vodafone coverage drops out on the lower level, by the North end escalator I still retained NZ 24 signal even outside the $2 shop at the North end, Lower level.


NZ Comms site is on the top of Public Trust House on the corner of Queens Dr/Laings Rd. Their sectorisation has a panel directly facing at the mall so it's not surprising they have some coverage in there where Vodafone don't.

26933 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6377

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 190600 19-Jan-2009 20:05
Send private message

Fairfield (cosited with Vodafone) and Hutt Hospital sites are also live delivering good coverage in the Hutt.

When I was out for a bike ride a few days ago I noticed the new concrete pad for a new site at the end of Croft Grove in Moera in the rear of a factory near the stop bank right next to the Woosh site. I can only assume this is for NZ Comms as Vodafone and Telecom have no need for a site there.

646 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 4


  Reply # 190601 19-Jan-2009 20:12
Send private message

In CHCH they are going nuts installing sites.

I heard from a contractor that they wanted 70 installed in CHCH by Xmas, but only 30 odd were completed. right now there is a new site going in almost every day.

I hear they want 100 installed ASAP. The race is on and based on the locations of the sites when they are all live Vodafone are going to have some serious issues! they will have an awesome foot print with the number of sites they are installing and there locations.

Telecom are also busy & i have heard Vodafone are in a frenzy down south in Dunners & Queenstown and Telecom have followed suit with an increased build there as well. Talk is is 200 + sites from all 3 networks this year in the south island alone.

This year is certainly shaping up to be a huge year for mobile customers with 2 nation wide 3G networks and new coverage improvements in the South & North Islands plus a 3rd player in the cities building what would seem to be an exceptional foot print network....

I can't wait to w850 / NZ Comms go live and Vodafone 3G is every where also!






www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz 
Delivering better broadband services

UFB fibre, Rural fibre on EA networks, RBI wireless, Ruralnet & Ultra wireless, wireless networks


302 posts

Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 190648 19-Jan-2009 22:11
Send private message

bbman:

In CHCH they are going nuts installing sites.

I heard from a contractor that they wanted 70 installed in CHCH by Xmas, but only 30 odd were completed. right now there is a new site going in almost every day.

I hear they want 100 installed ASAP. The race is on and based on the locations of the sites when they are all live Vodafone are going to have some serious issues! they will have an awesome foot print with the number of sites they are installing and there locations.

Telecom are also busy & i have heard Vodafone are in a frenzy down south in Dunners & Queenstown and Telecom have followed suit with an increased build there as well. Talk is is 200 + sites from all 3 networks this year in the south island alone.

This year is certainly shaping up to be a huge year for mobile customers with 2 nation wide 3G networks and new coverage improvements in the South & North Islands plus a 3rd player in the cities building what would seem to be an exceptional foot print network....

I can't wait to w850 / NZ Comms go live and Vodafone 3G is every where also!



The engineer i'd spoken to in November had been working on the network for sometime before recently (then) begun working on Telecom's cell network. He was very confident that it's a very robust network so far.




– J

646 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 4


  Reply # 190653 19-Jan-2009 22:14
Send private message

jermsie:
bbman:

In CHCH they are going nuts installing sites.

I heard from a contractor that they wanted 70 installed in CHCH by Xmas, but only 30 odd were completed. right now there is a new site going in almost every day.

I hear they want 100 installed ASAP. The race is on and based on the locations of the sites when they are all live Vodafone are going to have some serious issues! they will have an awesome foot print with the number of sites they are installing and there locations.

Telecom are also busy & i have heard Vodafone are in a frenzy down south in Dunners & Queenstown and Telecom have followed suit with an increased build there as well. Talk is is 200 + sites from all 3 networks this year in the south island alone.

This year is certainly shaping up to be a huge year for mobile customers with 2 nation wide 3G networks and new coverage improvements in the South & North Islands plus a 3rd player in the cities building what would seem to be an exceptional foot print network....

I can't wait to w850 / NZ Comms go live and Vodafone 3G is every where also!



The engineer i'd spoken to in November had been working on the network for sometime before recently (then) begun working on Telecom's cell network. He was very confident that it's a very robust network so far.


Sorry to ask but are you saying the tech was working on NZComms or Telecom?





www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz 
Delivering better broadband services

UFB fibre, Rural fibre on EA networks, RBI wireless, Ruralnet & Ultra wireless, wireless networks


302 posts

Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 190656 19-Jan-2009 22:29
Send private message

Sorry, he WAS working for NZ Comms but is now working for Telecom. Just on contract i'd assume.




– J

646 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 4


  Reply # 190660 19-Jan-2009 22:48
Send private message

jermsie: Sorry, he WAS working for NZ Comms but is now working for Telecom. Just on contract i'd assume.


On the face of it i would agree with the tech based on CHCH developments. With the cell planning they have done i would imagine Vodafone will need considerable infill in the cities to counter auto roaming of clients over to NZ Comms network.

With larger larger cell yeild sites i think it will be interesting to see the two GSM carriers go head to head. 2100mhz UMTS also will be better on NZ Comms but that will be countered possibly by new Vodafone infill and 900mhz UMTS.

With some of the comments being made about sharing of 900 GSM with 900 UMTS Vodafone may have some issues and start enabling 1800mhz GSM on all of its sites to limit GSM usage at 900mhz. This would further enhance the NZ Comms story being the only decent urban based 900mhz GSM network.

From there i wonder whether NZ Comms would re look at its roaming agreements? They have one with Vodafone, that means 900mhz GSM roaming and i would imagine 900/2100UMTS. But with the potential of more 1800Mhz coverage and less 900mhz (only speculation) they may look at Telecom also.

They can launch their network and sell handsets that are 900mhz GSM/850/2100mhz UMTS which would make a Telecom roaming partnership easy, a large number of handsets are available as well.

Now on top of that NZ Comms owns 850mhz freq so they could build out further with 850mhz or even partner with Telecom.

Then again they a have a co site with Vodafone and have already stated they will roam on Vodafone but it will be interesting to see if this changes in the future.





www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz 
Delivering better broadband services

UFB fibre, Rural fibre on EA networks, RBI wireless, Ruralnet & Ultra wireless, wireless networks


21385 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4334

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 190680 20-Jan-2009 01:16
Send private message

NZ 24 comes in quite well in parts of glenfield mall where there is no vodafone coverage - get 1-2 bars in countdown with the phone on sos calls only vs nothing on vodafone, downstairs in the other shops there is also frequent dropping back to SOS calls only.

Up in highbury by the winz office end of the road (opposite KFC) its the same thing again, pull the phone out of the pocket and the GPRS icon is gone and SOS calls only till its held up for a few seconds, in the ASB lobby along there as well, same thing again. So either my aged GSM handsets have a thing for losing the vodafone signal, or nz comms have done a better job with site location.

The most annoying thing about nz comms is their 3g coverage so far is total crap. Perhaps they will see the light like telecom did and swap the gear out before launch - but I doubt it with what they have spent so far.

I am still waiting on a 850/900 handset before I upgrade so a second GSM phone company will give me some use of my old handsets for some time still I guess.




Richard rich.ms

ajw



1411 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 127


  Reply # 190842 20-Jan-2009 17:01
Send private message

sbiddle:
ajw:
ajw:

It appears that NZ Comms have turned on some of their cellsites in the Hutt Valley. NZ 24 coverage is now available from Petone up to Waterloo. Have not had a chance yet to check further up the valley.



Did a coverage check on both levels of Westfield Mall, Lower Hutt today. Even where the Vodafone coverage drops out on the lower level, by the North end escalator I still retained NZ 24 signal even outside the $2 shop at the North end, Lower level.


NZ Comms site is on the top of Public Trust House on the corner of Queens Dr/Laings Rd. Their sectorisation has a panel directly facing at the mall so it's not surprising they have some coverage in there where Vodafone don't.





With the  site just across the road from the Queensgate entrance I would have thought that Vodafone would have had better coverage.

1 | 2 | 3 | 4
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.