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  Reply # 314205 2-Apr-2010 17:33
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richms: Talk about davinci code pricing.

Didn't take 2 degrees long to become hypocrites in that respect.


With you on that one..... :-/

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  Reply # 314248 2-Apr-2010 20:22
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Two things i would like to say is firstly is what a bunch of whiners someone lowers there already low prices and you complain. Just wondering your not all students are you??? They expect it all on a silver platter and still complain.

Secondly is in reply to this from SteveOn

I didn't look @ prepay as you all know it is a waste of time unless you just text.

That's utter rubbish to say prepay is just for texters. Some people don't like being stuck on fixed term contracts for one and with 2Degrees a prepay only provider having the cheapest calling rates in New Zealand how can it be just for people who text.

Telecom has introduced bonus topup since 2Degrees came along and Vodafone is likely to do something similar (if we're lucky). I've gone from not wanting to phone anyone on my cellphone due to nearly a buck per minute to not caring whether it's a text or a call (to either landline or any mobile phone)

So I say way to go 2Degrees it's about time there was true competition going on in NZ.

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  Reply # 314249 2-Apr-2010 20:41
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I prefer the certainty of the 25c a min on slingshot than worrying about what network and when I last topped up of 2 degrees when making a call. When running several phones it is hard to keep track of when you last topped up so the chances of falling off the 30 days and paying 44c a min on an onnetwork or landline call, or the person you call having ported and becoming off network are too high when compared against the 3c a min.

Sorry, but with the slingshot offer, I can only see me topping up my 2 degrees to keep the numbers alive, not activly using them.




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  Reply # 314250 2-Apr-2010 20:50
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jtbthatsme:
Telecom has introduced bonus topup since 2Degrees came along and Vodafone is likely to do something similar (if we're lucky).


Telecom their topup bonuses when they launched XT. This predates 2degrees.


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  Reply # 314276 2-Apr-2010 21:40
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i stand corrected on the bonus topup hehe

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  Reply # 314277 2-Apr-2010 21:40
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And more importantly on slingshot I dont have to worry about if I have enough credit before I make a call. So many times I have been stuck in traffic and put off calling because I only had enough for 8 mins on the phone in the past. Not any more.




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  Reply # 314312 2-Apr-2010 23:36
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I don't know, the pricing doesn't seem too confusing especially when they remind you everytime you log into the website and whenever you check your balance on your phone. I have *100#1# on speed dial and it tells you when your Magic Top Up expires.

I've actually spent more time going through Vodafone's FAQs and Terms & Conditions for their add-ons (BestMate, TXT2000, Family, Data, On Account plans etc) than I've spent looking through 2Degrees pricing.

Honestly though, I've made more voice calls, international texts, national off-net texts at their base rate (before they had Magic Top) than I've done with Vodafone. Vodafone needs to step up.

With that said, Slingshot's plans were the only time I've considered being On Account seriously.

 

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  Reply # 314318 3-Apr-2010 00:00
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So you check the ballance, its only $4 or so, not enough for the call so you have to stop, get a recharge, call up, type it in, blah blah.

Just so much easier being on account than messing around being an unsecured creditor of a telco.




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  Reply # 314323 3-Apr-2010 00:22
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Unless I was making a really long call, I wouldn't top up ;) $4 would give me about about 8 or 9 minutes, at the very least. More if I'd topped up that month. I've had my phone battery die more often than I've had that scenario with 2Degrees. Vodafone on the other hand... let's say I utilised their IOU quite a few times in the past ;)

But if I really wanted to avoid that though, I'd probably set up auto top-up.

I like the idea of being on account, but less so with being locked into a contract for 12 or 24 months, which is one of the reasons I've never gotten on a plan. Another reason is that I don't really like the on account plans offered by Vodafone and Telecom.

It wasn't until Slingshot came along that I really considered going on a plan. 6 months minimal at either $10/month or $20/month depending on a person's usage, with text and data add-ons? Sounded pretty good. Except they didn't have Twitter/Facebook texts in the bundles...and well, I'm still deciding on the pros and cons of switching. I'm waiting for Vodafone and/or Telecom's new text plans/response to 2degrees pricing, and then will make a decision.

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  Reply # 314331 3-Apr-2010 01:10
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Just so much easier being on account than messing around being an unsecured creditor of a telco.



I couldn't edit my other post, so... just adding my thoughts on this. I never quite thought of prepay customers as unsecured creditors of a mobile network, mostly because I feel a little disbelieving that anyone would go through the effort of switching providers very frequently for their main mobile. But maybe it's just me. I usually stay with a mobile network for usually more than a year, unless I come across a deal breaker (in which case it'd be something like half a year) or switching over would provide me with a benefit that significantly outweighed the cost and effort, etc.

But changes in pricing re: 2degrees new rates usually has a response from other competitors, so I don't really expect that much of a shift...

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  Reply # 314981 5-Apr-2010 15:39

richms: I prefer the certainty of the 25c a min on slingshot than worrying about what network and when I last topped up of 2 degrees when making a call. When running several phones it is hard to keep track of when you last topped up so the chances of falling off the 30 days and paying 44c a min on an onnetwork or landline call, or the person you call having ported and becoming off network are too high when compared against the 3c a min.

Sorry, but with the slingshot offer, I can only see me topping up my 2 degrees to keep the numbers alive, not activly using them.


I suppose - but you have to talk for a minimum of about 110 mins per month just to beat the 2d pricing. and then you are locked into a contract. Plus you have to pay more for texts. 25c is a great deal, though if they were on the xt network I would consider it.

Depends on the user. 

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Reply # 314991 5-Apr-2010 16:01
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nyquist: I don't know, the pricing doesn't seem too confusing especially when they remind you everytime you log into the website and whenever you check your balance on your phone. I have *100#1# on speed dial and it tells you when your Magic Top Up expires.

I've actually spent more time going through Vodafone's FAQs and Terms & Conditions for their add-ons (BestMate, TXT2000, Family, Data, On Account plans etc) than I've spent looking through 2Degrees pricing.

Honestly though, I've made more voice calls, international texts, national off-net texts at their base rate (before they had Magic Top) than I've done with Vodafone. Vodafone needs to step up.

With that said, Slingshot's plans were the only time I've considered being On Account seriously.

?

Hey Vodafone don't promote "easy to understand pricing" in any marketing I've ever seen from them.

2 Degrees on the other hand....

So don't complain about our whinging!

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Reply # 314998 5-Apr-2010 16:08
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If anybody wants to get really cheap mobile calls, then I would suggest trying the GlobalTel (US) Callback Service.

http://www.globaltel.com

Their leg rates are :

NZ landlines (64) US 0.016
NZ mobiles (642) US 0.025

So a mobile to mobile call in NZ would only be US 5c/min, and between a mobile and landline only US 4c/min.

This is significant NZ mobile rates are high compared to other countries. Vodafone and Telecom prepaid is NZ 89c/min, 2degrees is better at NZ 44c/min (22c with monthly top-up to some numbers).

So what I would do is buy a $2 2degrees SIM from DSE or some other store (no longer available from 2degrees website) which includes $2 credit, and use the callback service from GlobalTel to make calls.

Cheapest option I can think of for casual mobile users.

You do you need to sign up for an account with GlobalTel and provide CC information and they bill you monthly, but I have been using them several months and they are a good crowd.

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  Reply # 314999 5-Apr-2010 16:10
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How does that work please?

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  Reply # 315006 5-Apr-2010 16:26

Benolam: If anybody wants to get really cheap mobile calls, then I would suggest trying the GlobalTel (US) Callback Service.

http://www.globaltel.com

Their leg rates are :

NZ landlines (64) US 0.016
NZ mobiles (642) US 0.025

So a mobile to mobile call in NZ would only be US 5c/min, and between a mobile and landline only US 4c/min.

This is significant NZ mobile rates are high compared to other countries. Vodafone and Telecom prepaid is NZ 89c/min, 2degrees is better at NZ 44c/min (22c with monthly top-up to some numbers).

So what I would do is buy a $2 2degrees SIM from DSE or some other store (no longer available from 2degrees website) which includes $2 credit, and use the callback service from GlobalTel to make calls.

Cheapest option I can think of for casual mobile users.

You do you need to sign up for an account with GlobalTel and provide CC information and they bill you monthly, but I have been using them several months and they are a good crowd.


Yeah it's an application.

You will need to have a good provider like XT to get decent enough QoS to reach their U.S based server.


"When you dial your destination phone number your iPhone will use its built in data connection to send a signal to the Globaltel Switching Center in the U.S." 

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