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Topic # 60329 24-Apr-2010 14:36

Apparently we are not supposed to know but we should expect something big this week. Maybe finally 3g... I have noticed that most of the site I know of in welly are live with 3g.



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  Reply # 322394 24-Apr-2010 15:51
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Hopefully their data per mb costs will be cheaper?

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  Reply # 322395 24-Apr-2010 15:57
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If 3g come on 2dergess and it's cheap for data I will move back to 2dergress




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  Reply # 322398 24-Apr-2010 16:03
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cws82us: If 3g come on 2dergess and it's cheap for data I will move back to 2dergress


Same here.

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  Reply # 322450 24-Apr-2010 19:54
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If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.

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  Reply # 322562 25-Apr-2010 09:11
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sbiddle: If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.



They could only do this where they have their own network. When roaming on the Vodafone network they are still paying roaming rates.

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  Reply # 322565 25-Apr-2010 09:23
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ajw:
sbiddle: If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.



They could only do this where they have their own network. When roaming on the Vodafone network they are still paying roaming rates.


incorrect they could wear the cost

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  Reply # 322569 25-Apr-2010 09:27
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johnr:
ajw:
sbiddle: If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.



They could only do this where they have their own network. When roaming on the Vodafone network they are still paying roaming rates.


incorrect they could wear the cost

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Maybe they don't want to wear the cost.

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  Reply # 322574 25-Apr-2010 09:39
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ajw:
johnr:
ajw:
sbiddle: If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.



They could only do this where they have their own network. When roaming on the Vodafone network they are still paying roaming rates.


incorrect they could wear the cost

John


Maybe they don't want to wear the cost.


Well then they build out the network fast

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  Reply # 322575 25-Apr-2010 09:42
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johnr:
ajw:
johnr:
ajw:
sbiddle: If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.



They could only do this where they have their own network. When roaming on the Vodafone network they are still paying roaming rates.


incorrect they could wear the cost

John


Maybe they don't want to wear the cost.


Well then they build out the network fast

John


That would be the most prudent thing to do.

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  Reply # 322590 25-Apr-2010 10:54
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ajw:
sbiddle: If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.



They could only do this where they have their own network. When roaming on the Vodafone network they are still paying roaming rates.


And that's the unfortunate situation you are in when you don't build out your own network but rely on roaming agreements.

When asked about Vodafone's new plan the other day even Even Taylor Reynolds from the OECD commented that he was surprised that we were even paying for on-net calling, and it's become a reality that plans or addons offering free on-net calling have become very common.

If the Commerce Commission think such plans are "anti competitive" questions really do need to be asked about where else retail pricing controls are going to be implimented.

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  Reply # 322591 25-Apr-2010 10:59
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i certainly will have my eyes open on the forum regarding this discussion

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  Reply # 322592 25-Apr-2010 11:00
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sbiddle:
ajw:
sbiddle: If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.



They could only do this where they have their own network. When roaming on the Vodafone network they are still paying roaming rates.


And that's the unfortunate situation you are in when you don't build out your own network but rely on roaming agreements.

When asked about Vodafone's new plan the other day even Even Taylor Reynolds from the OECD commented that he was surprised that we were even paying for on-net calling, and it's become a reality that plans or addons offering free on-net calling have become very common.

If the Commerce Commission think such plans are "anti competitive" questions really do need to be asked about where else retail pricing controls are going to be implimented.


Check out the on net pricing of this MVNO in the UK which is 100% owned by 02.

http://giffgaff.com/index/pricing

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  Reply # 322595 25-Apr-2010 11:05
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ajw:
sbiddle:
ajw:
sbiddle: If they were smart they would launch free on-net calling.



They could only do this where they have their own network. When roaming on the Vodafone network they are still paying roaming rates.


And that's the unfortunate situation you are in when you don't build out your own network but rely on roaming agreements.

When asked about Vodafone's new plan the other day even Even Taylor Reynolds from the OECD commented that he was surprised that we were even paying for on-net calling, and it's become a reality that plans or addons offering free on-net calling have become very common.

If the Commerce Commission think such plans are "anti competitive" questions really do need to be asked about where else retail pricing controls are going to be implimented.


Check out the on net pricing of this MVNO in the UK which is 100% owned by 02.

http://giffgaff.com/index/pricing


Yip. Check out Virgin, Vodafone and 3 in Australia who all offer unlimited "free" on net calls with most of their new plans.

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  Reply # 322608 25-Apr-2010 12:12
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sbiddle:
Yip. Check out Virgin, Vodafone and 3 in Australia who all offer unlimited "free" on net calls with most of their new plans.


Vodafone & 3 Aus is not a great comparison, since they are a JV.

And it's not really "free" on Virgin either; you need to pay at least $19 each month to get it, and you must have at least 1c balance. In other words, it isn't free, it's $19/mth. And it's also worth noting that mobile calling rates on mere mortal plans were already under 30c/min when I left Aus in 2002. They've had real competition for a lot longer than NZ.




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  Reply # 322666 25-Apr-2010 14:53

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sbiddle:
Yip. Check out Virgin, Vodafone and 3 in Australia who all offer unlimited "free" on net calls with most of their new plans.


Vodafone & 3 Aus is not a great comparison, since they are a JV.

And it's not really "free" on Virgin either; you need to pay at least $19 each month to get it, and you must have at least 1c balance. In other words, it isn't free, it's $19/mth. And it's also worth noting that mobile calling rates on mere mortal plans were already under 30c/min when I left Aus in 2002. They've had real competition for a lot longer than NZ.


I would pay $30-50/mo for unlimited on-net/landlines calls. Means no more landline! 

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