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# 79110 12-Mar-2011 19:07
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I'm very confused. I have an android phone (X5) from 2degrees.

I live in an area where 2degrees uses Vodafone's network (like most of the land area
of NZ, actually).
If I turn data roaming off it looks like I can't receive MMS from other
2degrees phones.

Is this expected behaviour?
Do MMS's always count as data, so (presumably) cost whatever your current data rate
is costing at the time to receive?

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anthony



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  # 447883 12-Mar-2011 19:15
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Data Roaming needs to be on with 2degrees as you are "roaming" on the vodafone network

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  # 447886 12-Mar-2011 19:34
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MMS (send or receive) uses data, but it goes on a different APN (mms) and is not charged as data, but per message. Receive is not charged at all. International roaming is different; there you are charged for the data used, both sending and receiving.




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  # 447887 12-Mar-2011 19:38
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My Experience with MMS is that you need Data roaming enabled as MMS a transmitted through the Packet Data Network. However MMS are treated differently to Data and you are not charged to receive MMS and the cost of sending is included in the 50c cost to send a MMS. 

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  # 447912 12-Mar-2011 22:44
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I would say you need it on

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  # 452632 28-Mar-2011 08:56
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A late followup, don't know how you got on with this. You definitely need it on (data and for you roaming). If you are trying not to use data on your phone, or want to control when you do, download an app called APNdroid. It will change the APNs so there's no data connection. It will leave the MMS APN alone, so that side of things still works.



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  # 2257539 13-Jun-2019 17:29
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Since I asked this a long time ago, I wonder if anything has changed.

We have a nexus 5x android 8.1.0 and it still has problems sending and receiving MMS.

I've checked the two degrees website for the settings, which are all correct.
It notifies reception of the MMS, but sits forever (probably not) downloading.

Any way I can diagnose this?

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  # 2257544 13-Jun-2019 17:41
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ajbw: Since I asked this a long time ago, I wonder if anything has changed.

We have a nexus 5x android 8.1.0 and it still has problems sending and receiving MMS.

I've checked the two degrees website for the settings, which are all correct.
It notifies reception of the MMS, but sits forever (probably not) downloading.

Any way I can diagnose this?

 

turn on data roaming. it will work from there.





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  # 2257551 13-Jun-2019 18:00
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Well no...

For the avoidance of doubt, as the lawyers say, in Settings, we have
Mobile data - Access data using the mobile network. ON
Roaming - connect to data services when roaming. ON
A little triangle with an H - or sometimes a 3G - near its top left and a capital R in the status bar at the top
And in Messages, a circle with 227kb under it and a throbber circling.

That's why I wonder if there is any way to diagnose this...

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  # 2257566 13-Jun-2019 18:10
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Right, ok, was going off where we were at with the thread.

 

 

 

What you describe is slightly different. Will probably simply need a reset from the backend.

 

Tried reaching out to their mobile helpdesk?





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  # 2258024 14-Jun-2019 10:31
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Update: the message I sent last night arrived this morning. I'm starting to think about carrier pigeons and polaroid photos.
But I tried again this morning and the MMS arrived about five minutes later. Maybe the atmosphere was slower yesterday...

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ajbw: Update: the message I sent last night arrived this morning. I'm starting to think about carrier pigeons and polaroid photos.
But I tried again this morning and the MMS arrived about five minutes later. Maybe the atmosphere was slower yesterday...

 

@ajbw If your handset advises ' message sent ' then a major delay in the delivery of the MMS / PXT is not related to your side




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  # 2258043 14-Jun-2019 11:03
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So is it the case that the delay is in the part of the network that delivers the MMS. For example the signal is marginal?

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  # 2258045 14-Jun-2019 11:06
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ajbw: So is it the case that the delay is in the part of the network that delivers the MMS. For example the signal is marginal?

 

The first step in a MMS / PXT been delivered is a SMS (person can't see) telling the handset a MMS / PXT has arrived and please go collect it


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