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Topic # 87062 18-Jul-2011 21:35
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Wow what can i say...

very steep indeed.

would have been nice to combine cell data with normal data so you pay the normal fee but hey..

telecom rob us all

even tho their cell towers run 24/7, the power etc is no different to just sending a txt

but hey, i'll stay with telecom xt as snap is far too expensive right now.

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  Reply # 495025 18-Jul-2011 21:41
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even tho their cell towers run 24/7, the power etc is no different to just sending a txt

What does this mean?



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  Reply # 495031 18-Jul-2011 21:52
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it means it dont matter if its a txt or internet usage the power in and out are the same

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 495105 19-Jul-2011 08:16
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would have been nice to combine cell data with normal data so you pay the normal fee but hey..
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What does this mean - what is 'cell data' and what is 'normal data', are you referring to sms/mms vs internet.


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  Reply # 495122 19-Jul-2011 09:07
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AviZ: would have been nice to combine cell data with normal data so you pay the normal fee but hey..


That's not how the technology works. There's no way to combine those.

AviZ: telecom rob us all


They charge a price for their services. Seeing their price is not much different than other providers, I don't think there's a "rob us all" going on.

AviZ: even tho their cell towers run 24/7, the power etc is no different to just sending a txt


Except that mobile data and SMS use different technologies, different backend services and servers so there are different costs.

AviZ: but hey, i'll stay with telecom xt as snap is far too expensive right now.


Going by your comment of "telecom rob us all" I would think they were the most expensive, but you said that Snap is far too expensive. Are they also robbing us all? In any case you have options, try Vodafone, 2degrees, Orcon, Black+White, TelstraClear.

What really annoys me though is that some people manage to insert their [I HATE TELECOM] speak even when criticising another company's service or prices.
  
You don't have to stick with the provider you have now, you know?





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  Reply # 495126 19-Jul-2011 09:12
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What a pointless rant with nothing valid by the OP

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  Reply # 495142 19-Jul-2011 09:46

The OP has the assumption that because the technology is wireless some Magical Pixy Fairy comes down and spreads the joy of mobile connectivity. Whilst completely ignoring the fact that this fairy is a corporation which has to borrow money in order to pay for the installation, connection and maintenance of the network. Not to mention paying for the bandwidth which is not free!

Imagine if they gave everyone unlimited internet/calling/text...
How would the Pixy Fairy cope?


IMO go with 2degrees if you want cheap, go with Telecom if you want data, or vodafone if you want prepay.



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  Reply # 495460 19-Jul-2011 21:39
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i guess what i was trying to get at is that snap should install their own 3g stuff and have data counted in/towards the internet monthly plan, even if the plans was $10/m more it would still pay itself off.

after all the cell towers are merely repeaters so to speak.

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  Reply # 495464 19-Jul-2011 21:43
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AviZ: i guess what i was trying to get at is that snap should install their own 3g stuff and have data counted in/towards the internet monthly plan, even if the plans was $10/m more it would still pay itself off.

after all the cell towers are merely repeaters so to speak.


Cell towers are not repeaters at all not even close, Have you tired to purchase some 3G spectrum lately?




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  Reply # 495480 19-Jul-2011 22:13
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Cell towers are not repeaters at all not even close, Have you tired to purchase some 3G spectrum lately?



define what the cell phone towers are, and their job.

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  Reply # 495481 19-Jul-2011 22:17

AviZ:
Cell towers are not repeaters at all not even close, Have you tired to purchase some 3G spectrum lately?



define what the cell phone towers are, and their job.


Do you have a spare 400 mill? 2degrees have spent this and only have a tiny portion of the country established. Snap sure don't have this much. Each tower costs about 100k... They aren't just that simple.



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  Reply # 495484 19-Jul-2011 22:21
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this didnt answer my question on what cell phone towers are and what is their job....

yes we know the cost factor but im sure when being the best provider out there you would have no real issues in recovering the cost plus some in a short time.

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  Reply # 495485 19-Jul-2011 22:24
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AviZ: this didnt answer my question on what cell phone towers are and what is their job....


http://gizmodo.com/5177322/giz-explains-how-cell-towers-work

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  Reply # 495487 19-Jul-2011 22:25

AviZ: this didnt answer my question on what cell phone towers are and what is their job....

yes we know the cost factor but im sure when being the best provider out there you would have no real issues in recovering the cost plus some in a short time.


Heard of google?

Being the best provider? Do you have 1-2bn?

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  Reply # 495489 19-Jul-2011 22:27
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AviZ: i guess what i was trying to get at is that snap should install their own 3g stuff and have data counted in/towards the internet monthly plan, even if the plans was $10/m more it would still pay itself off.

after all the cell towers are merely repeaters so to speak.


i am not too sure if you are joking or you dont quite understand the concept of how this '3g stuff' works.

first, it will cost ~$700-800 million to setup this 3g network throughout new zealand. it costs 2degrees $250million to setup their own network in four main cities only - queenstown, christchurch, auckland and wellington. on top of that, you will need to apply for resource consent and have your own towers.

Snap has to buy 3G spectrum from the government. this is not something that you can just decide to buy today and get it the following day. it probably costs $5million per 5Mhz block (correct me if i am wrong).

one last thing, you will need a dedicated team of engineers to run and support this network.

do you think by charging $10 extra, they will have enough money to pay off these costs?



 





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  Reply # 495490 19-Jul-2011 22:28

Okay this is why people leave gz.


You know, that $10 will be some good pocket money for the pixy fairy.

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