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#817917 15-May-2013 10:12

networkn: I would imagine the amount of data passing into the server would be miminal, the list of feeds, high water mark and a list of read articles.

Not so much. The Old Reader jumped from almost nothing to 176,000 users in a month. 260 million items being synchronised. It's a lot of data and storage needed.

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#817933 15-May-2013 10:31

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networkn: I would imagine the amount of data passing into the server would be miminal, the list of feeds, high water mark and a list of read articles.

Not so much. The Old Reader jumped from almost nothing to 176,000 users in a month. 260 million items being synchronised. It's a lot of data and storage needed.

I too have switched to Old Reader and do find it very slow. But it does 80% of what I need so unless something better comes along (surely?), I'll be sticking to this.

(But, Google, I haven't forgotten what you did to Google Reader....)

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#819966 15-May-2013 12:15

Its crazy that it will auth to my google account, then I have to mess around pulling a archive and uploading a file to old reader, and then it cant even get my folders right.

I have been paring my feed count down, but without folders its still hopeless. Why cant it just import from google like all the others seem to be able to do just fine?

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#820675 16-May-2013 16:19

davidcole:
Twitters crap for news....unless it's happening now. Overnight news it's useless (IMO) - I have a list of companies in twitter, these obviously send out releases, tweets with product updates etc. Its a pain in the proverbial to troll through your overnights looking for "news" - but some places have gone away from RSS now for this stuff - I was actually on a hunt for a twitter to rss - as it would mean I could consume their updates when I wanted - not when they posted it,.

I've had several Twitter feeds (in Google Reader) for years now and, apart from the hassle of changing them when Twitter changed its API, they have worked really well.

You don't need an external app to grab the feeds.

https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=elpie gives you mine, for example.

ie. Just use https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name= with the screen name you want (without the @)

You can also grab feeds for search queries:
http://search.twitter.com/search.rss?q=
With the single word for the query you want following immediately after =. Or throw some Boolean operators in to expand the search.

For a reader, I was using ReadReadGo.com, because it is Kiwi-based and because I hadn't yet found something better. It seems to have disappeared recently though.

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#820697 16-May-2013 17:19

This is good only for reading someone's Twitter feed really. For news in a specific topic, better to subscribe to a news feed, filtering out any unwanted tweets...

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#820704 16-May-2013 17:38

Tinshed:

I too have switched to Old Reader and do find it very slow. But it does 80% of what I need so unless something better comes along (surely?), I'll be sticking to this.

(But, Google, I haven't forgotten what you did to Google Reader....)

Isn't Dig launching something. But apparently it won't be released until when google reader stops, which in my opinion is too late. People want to switch well before them.

People need ot get over the fact that google is an advertising company, not a friend. So people need to be prepared that anything they use google for could end at any time, or they could start charging for. In 10 years I suspect things ill be very different.

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#820713 16-May-2013 18:00

freitasm: This is good only for reading someone's Twitter feed really. For news in a specific topic, better to subscribe to a news feed, filtering out any unwanted tweets...

Useful for the feeds of search queries though. It would be useful for feeds on hashtags IF people used hashtags in sensible ways. It's just more feeds that can be added to a reader.

FWIW, the developers of Reeder, for iPad, have made their iPad app free. It is supposedly in the process of being updated for a post-Google Reader world and does not yet have the features of their iPhone app. It's worth grabbing in anticipation of the promised update.

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#820759 16-May-2013 19:43

I'm running a Tiny Tiny RSS (you can run it yourself too) instance here:

http://muppetz.com/reader/

There's an android app as well, you just point it at the above URL.

You're welcome to sign up and give it a whirl if you want. I "promise" to keep it updated and working, because it's what I use for my feed reader.

The Android App's great (it's a trial, key costs $1 or something tiny, there is even a official side-loadable free one from f-droid.org)

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#820815 16-May-2013 21:09

mattwnz:
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I too have switched to Old Reader and do find it very slow. But it does 80% of what I need so unless something better comes along (surely?), I'll be sticking to this.

(But, Google, I haven't forgotten what you did to Google Reader....)

Isn't Dig launching something. But apparently it won't be released until when google reader stops, which in my opinion is too late. People want to switch well before them.

People need ot get over the fact that google is an advertising company, not a friend. So people need to be prepared that anything they use google for could end at any time, or they could start charging for. In 10 years I suspect things ill be very different.

Yeah, you are right that Google is no longer a 'friend'. Some will say it never was, but in its early days it did some pretty neat and wonderful things. I am now looking at alternatives to Gmail (gmx, outlook, etc). Not sure if these are just jumping out of pan into the fire. Not quite ready (yet) to pay for e-mail with for example, Fastmail. I have given up trying to like/use Google+ though. As you say, in 10 years it will all be very different.

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#820829 16-May-2013 21:38

Tinshed:

Yeah, you are right that Google is no longer a 'friend'. Some will say it never was, but in its early days it did some pretty neat and wonderful things. I am now looking at alternatives to Gmail (gmx, outlook, etc). Not sure if these are just jumping out of pan into the fire. Not quite ready (yet) to pay for e-mail with for example, Fastmail. I have given up trying to like/use Google+ though. As you say, in 10 years it will all be very different.

Personally I have never relied on google services. I have a gmail and google account for a junk mail account and for my android based S3, because it is crippled without it. But I don't think google are any better or worse than other companies like facebook, microsoft, or apple. I use google reader, but will just use an altherntaive RSS reader of some type after it dies. Butthey have also killed off quite a lot of other services recently, including googles calendar sync and the Meebo bar, both of which I found to work well. Many people rely on them for blogging, so it will be interesting to see what happens in that space in the future, becuase it isn't as good as wordpress, and looks quite dated.

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#841590 22-Jun-2013 17:05

The new FeedDemon standalone is now available.

Feedly is a lot better than The Old Reader though as you can mark as read and automatically move to next feed. It makes all a bit faster. Also it supports apps in some mobile platforms, so that's good stuff.

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#841593 22-Jun-2013 17:17

i'm really liking feedly, over the alternatives and it has come a huge way since Googles' announcement about Google Reader.

and feedly look like their putting together a fairly robust API

http://blog.feedly.com/2013/06/21/summary-of-the-last-100-days/

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#841642 22-Jun-2013 18:32

kontonnz: i'm really liking feedly, over the alternatives and it has come a huge way since Googles' announcement about Google Reader.

and feedly look like their putting together a fairly robust API

http://blog.feedly.com/2013/06/21/summary-of-the-last-100-days/

There's one windows client I've found that'll talk to feeldy, menere, but it's interface is crap, and too mouse based - if I wanted mouse based I'd stick with the feedly website. And even that has pretty good keyboard support.

The only thing I don't like about feedly is sometimes it doesnt show you all the articles.

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#846775 28-Jun-2013 15:06

mattwnz:
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I too have switched to Old Reader and do find it very slow. But it does 80% of what I need so unless something better comes along (surely?), I'll be sticking to this.

(But, Google, I haven't forgotten what you did to Google Reader....)

Isn't Dig launching something. But apparently it won't be released until when google reader stops, which in my opinion is too late. People want to switch well before them.

People need ot get over the fact that google is an advertising company, not a friend. So people need to be prepared that anything they use google for could end at any time, or they could start charging for. In 10 years I suspect things ill be very different.

I just got an invite to digg reader.

This is what the screen looks like directly after importing your google reader stuff, haven't really looked around it yet

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#846784 28-Jun-2013 15:21

Yeah, my Digg invite turned up as well. Bit flakey from my (limited) experience. For example, scroll-bars seem to 'freeze' regularly. Plus since I have been using Oldreader and Feedly, and not Google Reader recently, I need to re-scrub my subscriptions, etc. Still, good to have choice and I hope they do well.

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