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  Reply # 794121 5-Apr-2013 22:23
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Really? Did you check the first link from Google? Any full legitimate version of the software will have "freeze panes" in Excel. What's your beef? Do some research.

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DonGould: ...but I'm not actually trying to licence a corporate site, I'm just trying to sort out 3 computers for 3 people who just need a word processor and spreadsheet....  it really shouldn't be to complex.

It's really not. Start at http://office.microsoft.com/en-nz/, then "Compare your purchase options". I think you're making it seem harder than it actually is.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 794124 5-Apr-2013 22:29
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bazzer: Really? Did you check the first link from Google? Any full legitimate version of the software will have "freeze panes" in Excel. What's your beef? Do some research.


Where do I find out what the local New Zealand performance of these on line products is like? 

Where do I find folk who might have installed this stuff recently and can share personal experience comments rather than spin doctor PR blurb on a vendors web site?

Where's the best place in New Zealand to post a request for information and attract the attention of someone who might like to offer assistance to sort out the issues, either paid or in return for beer?

Where's the best place to find out how much beer should be expected for such assistance?






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DonGould: ...but I'm not actually trying to licence a corporate site, I'm just trying to sort out 3 computers for 3 people who just need a word processor and spreadsheet....  it really shouldn't be to complex.


HERE IS A PAGE COMPARING ALL VERSIONS.

Pretty easy to see your client needs Office Home & .Business 2013. This is licensed per PC, at NZ$ 425.00 each.

There's a BUY NOW link in that page. 

I think you have passed the point of going with your campaigns on every single issue. This is crystal clear: there's a suitable version and it's easy to buy. If your client thinks it's expensive, then get him on a free office suite.

Easy as that.





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http://office.microsoft.com/en-nz/business/compare-office-365-for-business-plans-FX102918419.aspx

The $19.90 per user per month plan also includes desktop versions of the software with the benefit of the cloud offering - removes the worry of high latency or unavailability to the .sg datacenter (not that it happens often).

This plan also has hosted email, collaboration, calendars, etc that you don't get with the $450 standalone.

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  Reply # 794604 7-Apr-2013 14:25
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DonGould: it really shouldn't be to complex.



This is Microsoft here ;-P




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Lias:
DonGould: it really shouldn't be to complex.



This is Microsoft here ;-P


when you say make it less complex, what you're actually meaning is take away choices

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  Reply # 794621 7-Apr-2013 15:05
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Don if you install Office 2013 as part of an Office 365 subscription package, you don't have a product key, you have a username and password. Office will then automatically re-activate every 30 days against the credentials you provide (and check if you've reached your device limit). If your PC is offline, Office continues to function fine, until its next activation in 30 days, then if it can't activate I believe it goes into reduced functionality mode until it can get online again and re-activate.

Of course you can still purchase standalone Office 2013 for a one off purchase price, which activates using a product key as per previous versions of Office.



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  Reply # 794758 7-Apr-2013 21:13
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TangoNZ: Don if you install Office 2013 as part of an Office 365 subscription package, you don't have a product key, you have a username and password. Office will then automatically re-activate every 30 days against the credentials you provide (and check if you've reached your device limit). If your PC is offline, Office continues to function fine, until its next activation in 30 days, then if it can't activate I believe it goes into reduced functionality mode until it can get online again and re-activate.

Of course you can still purchase standalone Office 2013 for a one off purchase price, which activates using a product key as per previous versions of Office.


Ok that sounds like a really sensible option.

I think I'm going to recommend they spend $1500 to get 3 licences but suggest this as a fall back, though as I have no idea at all how to go about setting that up and the need they'll have to keep updating it, I suspect that it would make much more sense to just spend the cash up front because it could cost them just as much in my support time over the next 12 months every time they need help to update.






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  Reply # 794760 7-Apr-2013 21:16
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nathan:
Lias:
DonGould: it really shouldn't be to complex.



This is Microsoft here ;-P


when you say make it less complex, what you're actually meaning is take away choices


...and in fact it proves not to be complex at all and doesn't require hiring an expert in the area, it needed less than 2 pages of discussion to draw out the correct links to required reading and a couple of posts to answer the questions I had that are not covered in the FAQ... and people wonder why I love forums!

Thanks guys. :)





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I think I'm going to recommend they spend $1500 to get 3 licences but suggest this as a fall back, though as I have no idea at all how to go about setting that up and the need they'll have to keep updating it, I suspect that it would make much more sense to just spend the cash up front because it could cost them just as much in my support time over the next 12 months every time they need help to update.

Why would it cost them more in support? If anything it would be less (other than the fact you'd need to learn out how to sign them up etc, which is pretty easy).

To install you simply go to Office365.com, sign in, go to Software, click Install, and within a couple of minutes you're good to go (it uses Click To Run so you can use it within a couple of minutes while the rest of the Office suite downloads in the background and installs locally, its pretty clever stuff.

It also patches itself automatically every month (or is it 3 monthly?) I believe, just the bits that need to be updated, some sort of delta streaming / patching (learnt all about it at an MS event recently but can't remember exact terminology). We've got a lot of clients using subscription based Office as part of other Office 365 packages and they're all really happy with it.

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Had a read, looks like all your client really needs is open office.

Load that on it for him and then pass him links to tutorials and documentation.

My Guess is people who need to have microsoft office just do so out of habit.

Also Open Office should be able to open all the files done in MS office as well.

Update and everything are also free.

I stopped using MS office many years ago and have had no problems with out it.

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