Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
74171 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

#130728 25-Sep-2013 19:26
Send private message

I just got one of these HP Microserver Gen8 delivered here today plus an 8-port HP PS1810-8G switch

 

  • four USB 2.0 ports
  • two USB 3.0 ports
  • two ethernet ports
  • four 3.5” bays
  • ILO 

No idea of RAM as I haven't powered it yet - just got it here today and I am off to Auckland tomorrow!

I will be posting a review - and we will have a second unit to giveaway later.












Support Geekzone by subscribing, making a donation. or using one of our referral links: Sharesies | Goodsync  | Mighty Ape | Backblaze | Norton 360 | Lenovo laptops 

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6
BinaryLimited
796 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

  #902640 25-Sep-2013 19:28
Send private message
Affiliate link
 
 
 

Affiliate link: LastPass securely stores your passwords and other personal data.
freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
74171 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  #902659 25-Sep-2013 19:40
Send private message

It depends on model:

 





Support Geekzone by subscribing, making a donation. or using one of our referral links: Sharesies | Goodsync  | Mighty Ape | Backblaze | Norton 360 | Lenovo laptops 

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


Inphinity
2704 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #902682 25-Sep-2013 19:53
Send private message

These are awesome - I have a couple of the Gen7s. The 7s came with 2GB RAM stock, but the 8s seem to be either 2 or 4 depending on package. Judging by the iLO port, you seem to have the G2020T.

I'm glad to see they've put some USB3.0 ports on them, though I'd have liked to see a 2.5" bay for SSDs, even at the expense of the 5.25" bay.

Also a little confused why 2 of the HDD bays are SATA6g and 2 are SATA3g, seems bizarre why not just use a 4-channel 6g controller - would've liked to see some hardware Raid5 support, too.

A little confused on the pricing here, too - the 1610 is 2.3Ghz Celeron-based, where the 2020 is 2.5Ghz Pentium-based (both Ivy Bridge architecture), and the 2020 also has an iLO4 controller onboard. Overseas, the G2020 is the premium priced model - why is it seemingly reversed here?



Regs
4065 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Snowflake

  #902698 25-Sep-2013 20:21
Send private message

there is probably a promo on the G2020, either that or the 1610 comes as a bundle maybe. I read that there was also an i3 model - is that the 2020, or is there a yet to arrive 3rd SKU around?




mmlakeman
106 posts

Master Geek


  #902717 25-Sep-2013 21:37
Send private message

Handy little boxes, just be aware the standard warranty is a bit crap - its a 1 yr return to base - so either upgrade the warranty or don't use for anything that needs next day support..

Inphinity
2704 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #902724 25-Sep-2013 21:56
Send private message

Regs: there is probably a promo on the G2020, either that or the 1610 comes as a bundle maybe. I read that there was also an i3 model - is that the 2020, or is there a yet to arrive 3rd SKU around?


As far as I'm aware there is no Core i-based Microserver in the current generation. Possibly a Haswell i3 based model in the next gen.

michaelmurfy
/dev/ttys0
11027 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
ID Verified
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #902732 25-Sep-2013 22:15
Send private message

I'd love to see how performance of this stacks up against the older generation HP Microserver, Mauricio, want to do some testing whilst we drink port and smoke cigars?




Michael Murphy | https://murfy.nz | https://keybase.io/michaelmurfy - Referral Links: Sharesies | Electric Kiwi
Are you happy with what you get from Geekzone? Please consider supporting us by making a donation.




Mark
1607 posts

Uber Geek


  #902896 26-Sep-2013 09:30
Send private message

I'm quite looking forward to the review of this, be interested to see how noisy it is or is not and what protocols it will support.

Kraven
677 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #902904 26-Sep-2013 09:43
Send private message

Mark: and what protocols it will support.


Whatever you like... I believe they ship without an OS.

Inphinity
2704 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #902905 26-Sep-2013 09:44
Send private message

michaelmurfy: I'd love to see how performance of this stacks up against the older generation HP Microserver, Mauricio, want to do some testing whilst we drink port and smoke cigars?


Based on deploying a couple of Gen8s for a customer recently, and having a couple of Gen7s myself, there's a noticable but not massive performance improvement from the N40L, but that's to be expected - things like management snapins etc loading faster on Windows Server. Also seems to give slightly improved transfer rates, but that may be the new controller as much as CPU. Would be quite keen to see some full benchmarking on a range of activities.

Also, something I forgot to check on those Gen8s before sending them out - do the Gen8s still have a 4-pin molex power connector for the opitcal drive bay, like the Gen7s? Seems stupid, considering it requires a SATA drive, to not provide SATA power. I'm sure the 8s fixed this, but we didn't put an ODD in either of them yet so I never thought to look.

Mark: I'm quite looking forward to the review of this, be interested to see how noisy it is or is not and what protocols it will support.


How do you mean "what protocols it will support"? It's just a small form factor server, you can install any OS you want and do whatever you want, really. This isn't a NAS appliance or such. It's a Pentium G2020T, with DDR3 RAM, a SATA controller, etc. You can do whatever you like with it, really.





Mark
1607 posts

Uber Geek


  #902965 26-Sep-2013 11:16
Send private message

Inphinity:
Mark: I'm quite looking forward to the review of this, be interested to see how noisy it is or is not and what protocols it will support.


How do you mean "what protocols it will support"? It's just a small form factor server, you can install any OS you want and do whatever you want, really. This isn't a NAS appliance or such. It's a Pentium G2020T, with DDR3 RAM, a SATA controller, etc. You can do whatever you like with it, really.


Kraven:
Whatever you like... I believe they ship without an OS.

 


Oh!  I thought it being HP it would run some sort of Windows based OS ... might make a nice home ESXi server, but maybe not such a good FreeNAS server (RAID controller might be a hinderence to ZFS)
More keen to see the review now! :-)


Frietasm :  Any chance you could test it with ESXi and FreeNAS ? :-)

 

 

freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
74171 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  #902979 26-Sep-2013 11:23
Send private message

HP is not supplying the Start DVD with Gen8 (Microserver and other models) anymore. All the required drivers are now built-in to the system. You only need to insert a DVD or USB key with a supported OS and it will automatically install the OS and install the required drivers.

The instructions are clearly geared towards Windows Server 2012 Essentials, a 25 user (no CALs required) operating system, mainly because this is the kind of OS a small business would use with this box. You can certainly install whatever you want though - look at the links in the OP to find out which OS support is available.




Support Geekzone by subscribing, making a donation. or using one of our referral links: Sharesies | Goodsync  | Mighty Ape | Backblaze | Norton 360 | Lenovo laptops 

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


Inphinity
2704 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #902994 26-Sep-2013 11:37
Send private message

Mark: 
 but maybe not such a good FreeNAS server (RAID controller might be a hinderence to ZFS)


I have used FreeNAS on the Gen7s, and it performs fairly well - I get about 80MB/sec transfer speeds out of it. 4x 1TB Seagate 7200RPM drives for the ZFS storage pool, with a 250GB as the boot drive. I would imagine the Gen8s to be about the same, if not a little better. For comparison, my Seagate BlackArmor 400 with 4x 2TB Barracudas in RAID5 only gets about 25MB/sec write and 45MB/sec read.



Mark
1607 posts

Uber Geek


  #903009 26-Sep-2013 11:59
Send private message

Inphinity:
Mark: 
 but maybe not such a good FreeNAS server (RAID controller might be a hinderence to ZFS)


I have used FreeNAS on the Gen7s, and it performs fairly well - I get about 80MB/sec transfer speeds out of it. 4x 1TB Seagate 7200RPM drives for the ZFS storage pool, with a 250GB as the boot drive. I would imagine the Gen8s to be about the same, if not a little better. For comparison, my Seagate BlackArmor 400 with 4x 2TB Barracudas in RAID5 only gets about 25MB/sec write and 45MB/sec read.




Hmmm ... does the RAID controller give the option to pass through the drives with no RAID wrapper ?  One of the features of ZFS I'm keen to implement is the bitrot detection which it can't do when the storage is in a volume handled by a RAID controller.

I'm surpirised the Gen7 is not faster, my current NAS is an Atom D525 based unit (not as good as the AMD ?) and with 4 * 2TB in software RAID-5 I can pull 200Mbytes/second+ off of it over the LAN (LACP trunk with 2 * 1Gbit ports), I havn't benchmarked the LVM performance on the unit directly just over my LAN... I know ZFS is quite heavy but wouldn't think it would impact so much ?

alexx
824 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #903038 26-Sep-2013 12:33
Send private message

Looks nice. We have the BL460c Gen8 and DL380 Gen8... does the Microserver Gen8 have the pretty SmartDrive LED indicators like the BL460 Gen8 and DL380 Gen8 models?

Like these:



Edit: update link.




#include <standard.disclaimer>


 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





News and reviews »

Belkin Screenforce Tempered Glass Screen Protector and Bumper - Apple Watch
Posted 15-Aug-2022 17:20


Samsung Introducing Galaxy Z Flip4 and Galaxy Z Fold4
Posted 11-Aug-2022 01:00


Samsung Unveils Health Innovations with Galaxy Watch5 and Galaxy Watch5 Pro
Posted 11-Aug-2022 01:00


Google Bringing First Cloud Region to Aotearoa New Zealand
Posted 10-Aug-2022 08:51


ANZ To Move to FIS Modern Banking Platform
Posted 10-Aug-2022 08:28


GoPro Hero10 Black Review
Posted 8-Aug-2022 17:41


Amazon to Acquire iRobot
Posted 6-Aug-2022 11:41


Samsung x LIFE Picture Collection Brings Iconic Moments in History to The Frame
Posted 4-Aug-2022 17:04


Norton Consumer Cyber Safety Pulse Report: Phishing for New Bait on Social Media
Posted 4-Aug-2022 16:50


Microsoft Announces New Solutions for Threat Intelligence and Attack Surface Management
Posted 3-Aug-2022 21:54


Seagate Addresses Hyperscale Workloads with Enterprise-Class Nytro SSDs
Posted 3-Aug-2022 21:50


Visa Launching Eco-friendly Payment Solutions in New Zealand
Posted 3-Aug-2022 21:48


NCR Delivers Services to Run Bank of New Zealand ATM Network
Posted 30-Jul-2022 11:06


New HP Portfolio Supports New Era of Hybrid Work
Posted 28-Jul-2022 17:14


Harman Kardon Launches Citation MultiBeam 1100 Soundbar
Posted 28-Jul-2022 17:10









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.







Backblaze unlimited backup