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  # 1072269 22-Jun-2014 23:17
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HiTM4N:
Yabanize: This sounds like a great thread for me! I have knowledge and interest but no formal qualifications. I kindof dropped out of school so have no NCEA. Comptia a+ looks like a good place to start? It sounds like it is a short course? Does anyone know good places to do it in christchurch?

EDIT: I may be jumping ahead of myself here, but apparently there are no prerequisites?

Go down and have a look at vision college (used to be Electec) on Manchester St, I did the 1 year Diploma in Computer Systems and Network Administration and got a job straight away at the end of it at Datacom. Most of my course group walked straight into jobs, as Electec/Vision College is pretty well regarded in the area.
The course covers it all, A+ Network+ MCSA CCNA

Have a look here: http://www.visioncollege.ac.nz/courses/ict/diploma-computer-systems-network-administration


Thank's for that:)

 

I turn 17 in 2 months,

I see the entry requirements are

 

• Students should be 17 years or older on entry to the programme

 

• Applicants must have genuine enthusiasm for computer work

 

• Students need to be interviewed and/or sit an aptitude assessment.

 

 Which means I should hopefully get in?

As I said, I don't have any NCEA.

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  # 1072270 22-Jun-2014 23:24
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HiTM4N:
Yabanize: This sounds like a great thread for me! I have knowledge and interest but no formal qualifications. I kindof dropped out of school so have no NCEA. Comptia a+ looks like a good place to start? It sounds like it is a short course? Does anyone know good places to do it in christchurch?

EDIT: I may be jumping ahead of myself here, but apparently there are no prerequisites?

Go down and have a look at vision college (used to be Electec) on Manchester St, I did the 1 year Diploma in Computer Systems and Network Administration and got a job straight away at the end of it at Datacom. Most of my course group walked straight into jobs, as Electec/Vision College is pretty well regarded in the area.
The course covers it all, A+ Network+ MCSA CCNA

Have a look here: http://www.visioncollege.ac.nz/courses/ict/diploma-computer-systems-network-administration


Anyone knows a good place in Auckland? I've heard a lot about AMES, not sure if it's a good place or they just have big advertising budget.

Also, any idea why AMES' lv 5 diploma course is way more expensive than vision college's? http://www.ames.ac.nz/our-courses/course_comptia_microsoft_cisco_training_and_certification_ames_it_academy_nz 

 
 
 
 


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  # 1072275 22-Jun-2014 23:38
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Yabanize:
HiTM4N:
Yabanize: This sounds like a great thread for me! I have knowledge and interest but no formal qualifications. I kindof dropped out of school so have no NCEA. Comptia a+ looks like a good place to start? It sounds like it is a short course? Does anyone know good places to do it in christchurch?

EDIT: I may be jumping ahead of myself here, but apparently there are no prerequisites?

Go down and have a look at vision college (used to be Electec) on Manchester St, I did the 1 year Diploma in Computer Systems and Network Administration and got a job straight away at the end of it at Datacom. Most of my course group walked straight into jobs, as Electec/Vision College is pretty well regarded in the area.
The course covers it all, A+ Network+ MCSA CCNA

Have a look here: http://www.visioncollege.ac.nz/courses/ict/diploma-computer-systems-network-administration


Thank's for that:) I turn 17 in 2 months,

I see the entry requirements are • Students should be 17 years or older on entry to the programme • Applicants must have genuine enthusiasm for computer work • Students need to be interviewed and/or sit an aptitude assessment.  Which means I should hopefully get in?

As I said, I don't have any NCEA.

They're pretty good down there about people being accepted

Just be aware, the course isn't a walk in the park ;) It goes above and beyond the exam requirements for things like A+ and such. It's like 9am til 3pm every day during the week and there is lots of reading to be done out side of course.
The tutors are amazing and will help you every step of the way if you put the effort in.





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  # 1072557 23-Jun-2014 13:08
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my 2c

stay out of the install/repair/hardware side. In general,  low pay & is slowly dying off.
You'll be trying to get the same low end job as guys with 5-20years experience . When the place I work for ever offered a entry level job, they would get a
stack of CV's 2 feet high, often with alot of overqualified guys  :-)
There are too many general IT techies(Desktop/server) all trying for the same jobs .

The software side of the industry may be a better bet ?

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  # 1072830 23-Jun-2014 17:30
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1101: my 2c

stay out of the install/repair/hardware side. In general,  low pay & is slowly dying off.
You'll be trying to get the same low end job as guys with 5-20years experience . When the place I work for ever offered a entry level job, they would get a
stack of CV's 2 feet high, often with alot of overqualified guys  :-)
There are too many general IT techies(Desktop/server) all trying for the same jobs .

The software side of the industry may be a better bet ?


I imagine a networking professional would handle both the hadrware and software? when you said focus on the software side of things, do you mean programming? Am not confident I can be a decent programmer though, I mean I can learn to operate softwares and applications, but not sure if I can make them.

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  # 1072844 23-Jun-2014 18:41
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Lately ive been interested in programming too. I made an android app and am currently making a php/mysql database system for a friends shop to manage repair jobs

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  # 1074724 26-Jun-2014 00:15
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fxhans21:... 
I imagine a networking professional would handle both the hadrware and software? when you said focus on the software side of things, do you mean programming? Am not confident I can be a decent programmer though, I mean I can learn to operate softwares and applications, but not sure if I can make them.


Our networking guys tend to just stick to one thing, although you could argue that the OS's run on some routers these days is more akin to scripting than traditional commands. ie IOS-XR

I was fortunate to get into Virtualization and Storage, with a bit of security on the side, and it's done me very well given it's an area which has seen massive growth recently. I also studied management for later as I know the boom may turn into a bust one day. Hopefully by then I'll be doing presales or similar. Wiith the way things are going there'll be fewer engineering roles / opportunities as the industry shifts so 'software defined <insert here>", so just be mindful to plan a career path.



 



 
 
 
 


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  # 1075222 26-Jun-2014 20:38
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insane:
fxhans21:... 
I imagine a networking professional would handle both the hadrware and software? when you said focus on the software side of things, do you mean programming? Am not confident I can be a decent programmer though, I mean I can learn to operate softwares and applications, but not sure if I can make them.


Our networking guys tend to just stick to one thing, although you could argue that the OS's run on some routers these days is more akin to scripting than traditional commands. ie IOS-XR

I was fortunate to get into Virtualization and Storage, with a bit of security on the side, and it's done me very well given it's an area which has seen massive growth recently. I also studied management for later as I know the boom may turn into a bust one day. Hopefully by then I'll be doing presales or similar. Wiith the way things are going there'll be fewer engineering roles / opportunities as the industry shifts so 'software defined <insert here>", so just be mindful to plan a career path.



Someone recommended me to take CompTIA A+ first, then network+, and then security+. After the three compTIA certs, then I can either go Cisco route (hardware) or Microsoft route (more software based). Sorry for the newbie question, but what's actually involved in the software side of networking? making programs? or more about learning to operate software?

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  # 1075315 26-Jun-2014 23:14
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fxhans21:
insane:
fxhans21:... 
I imagine a networking professional would handle both the hadrware and software? when you said focus on the software side of things, do you mean programming? Am not confident I can be a decent programmer though, I mean I can learn to operate softwares and applications, but not sure if I can make them.


Our networking guys tend to just stick to one thing, although you could argue that the OS's run on some routers these days is more akin to scripting than traditional commands. ie IOS-XR

I was fortunate to get into Virtualization and Storage, with a bit of security on the side, and it's done me very well given it's an area which has seen massive growth recently. I also studied management for later as I know the boom may turn into a bust one day. Hopefully by then I'll be doing presales or similar. Wiith the way things are going there'll be fewer engineering roles / opportunities as the industry shifts so 'software defined <insert here>", so just be mindful to plan a career path.



Someone recommended me to take CompTIA A+ first, then network+, and then security+. After the three compTIA certs, then I can either go Cisco route (hardware) or Microsoft route (more software based). Sorry for the newbie question, but what's actually involved in the software side of networking? making programs? or more about learning to operate software?


Im no expert, but I believe, Learning to operate software, configuring routers, wireless systems etc and servers and maybe nas

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