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  Reply # 1429492 17-Nov-2015 11:02
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Just curious is there a particular reason you want to move to 586?


I thought of another reason we need to get on top of this on my way home last night. The company I work for is a software house, if we have to develop against edge browser and other windows features, we need it to be up to date. If we are stuck on some LTSB branch that will never see feature updates, that could become a problem for development. Would be good to get a solid answer on this now instead of after we have deployed the wrong branch to all our Devs.


what's the question?

it seems to me that you probably shouldn't have deployed LTSB in the first place :)

Easy enough fix, upgrade from 10240 Enterprise LTSB to 10586 Enterprise


That was my answer to GZT as to why I think we need 10586 with the ability to select update branch. Will have to have another look in the partner portal at the available versions to find the correct Windows 10 Enterprise version. I think if we had realized this was going to happen, we would not have deployed that version. Probably, my boss just grabbed the first version of Windows 10 from the partner portal without realizing how update had changed.

As for the KB3105211 update, it is listed as a cumulative update for Windows 10 version 1511. Klathman at the start of the thread said just change branch and then apply that update. Not sure that is totally correct. I think it is actually just the same as the KB3105213 update but for the new 1511 build not the old 10240 build.




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  Reply # 1429500 17-Nov-2015 11:09
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we used MS MDT update 1 to deploy windows 10 enterprise build 10240, we have WSuS doing the patches. What we want is WSuS to deploy version 1511 / something to deploy the new feature  - last thing i want to do is every time MS release new feature, we have to go to every pc and manually update them again. 

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1429524 17-Nov-2015 11:45
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bagheera: we used MS MDT update 1 to deploy windows 10 enterprise build 10240, we have WSuS doing the patches. What we want is WSuS to deploy version 1511 / something to deploy the new feature  - last thing i want to do is every time MS release new feature, we have to go to every pc and manually update them again. 


Whatever you used to call MDT Update 1 in the first place can do it.

 

Today, you can do it through WU/WU for Business, or a ConfigMgr task sequence (or other software distribution tool able to run “setup.exe /auto upgrade”).

In a few weeks, WSUS will also be able to do it.



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  Reply # 1429530 17-Nov-2015 12:00
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@bagheera, looks like we both need to redeploy or upgrade with build 10586 media then we will have the options to manage deferred updates etc through group policy. This will eventually be done through WSUS as well. First step is to make sure you are not on 10240 LTSB.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3005345/operating-systems/windows-update-for-business-lets-it-admins-defer-damaging-patches.html
http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/gpo-settings-windows-update-business








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  Reply # 1429556 17-Nov-2015 12:08
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so you saying any PC that we have already deployed with build 10240 (I know how to deploy new pc with build in MDT with 1511 - that just update the image to that) i have go back and upgrade yet again manually? there is no way to deploy var wsus to get standard (none LTSB ) build from 10240 -> 1511?

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  Reply # 1429569 17-Nov-2015 12:17
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bagheera: so you saying any PC that we have already deployed with build 10240 (I know how to deploy new pc with build in MDT with 1511 - that just update the image to that) i have go back and upgrade yet again manually? there is no way to deploy var wsus to get standard (none LTSB ) build from 10240 -> 1511?


Sounds like there isn't an upgrade package in WSUS yet. So only windows update can perform upgrades at this time. Otherwise it's back to SCCM/MDT to push out the updates until the WSUS updates are deployed.

So the 1511 update in WSUS is just an update for the 1511 build rather than the actual update.

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  Reply # 1429591 17-Nov-2015 12:36
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bagheera: so you saying any PC that we have already deployed with build 10240 (I know how to deploy new pc with build in MDT with 1511 - that just update the image to that) i have go back and upgrade yet again manually? there is no way to deploy var wsus to get standard (none LTSB ) build from 10240 -> 1511?


please read the _last line_ of my reply post #1429524 :)

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  Reply # 1429599 17-Nov-2015 12:45
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So in a few weeks time there will be a wsus patch kbxxxxxx that we approve, that will upgrade build 10240 -> 1511, but currently there is no wsus patch to do this.

Thanks Nathan for clearing that up, will keep an eye out for it.

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  Reply # 1429605 17-Nov-2015 13:05
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Yep. I'll post here when we release it.



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  Reply # 1429610 17-Nov-2015 13:16
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Nice, I see. Thanks very much Nathan.




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  Reply # 1452916 18-Dec-2015 11:49
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Just to add to this after a long time, My work laptop with 10240 Enterprise finally got offered 10586, I updated it and then it did the updates to .29 and .36. Obviously we didn't have the LTSB media which is good. I didn't take note of the KB number that actually installed it though. All working fine and looking good. 




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  Reply # 1452928 18-Dec-2015 12:07
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paulmilbank: Just to add to this after a long time, My work laptop with 10240 Enterprise finally got offered 10586, I updated it and then it did the updates to .29 and .36. Obviously we didn't have the LTSB media which is good. I didn't take note of the KB number that actually installed it though. All working fine and looking good. 


this using WSuS or windows update?

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  Reply # 1452932 18-Dec-2015 12:15
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Windows 10 Enterprise 1511 bits were published to Windows Update (and therefore, to Windows Update for Business too) this week, but only offered to PCs currently running Windows 10 Enterprise 1507 (original RTM version) and activated using a MAK product key.

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  Reply # 1452934 18-Dec-2015 12:17
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nathan: Windows 10 Enterprise 1511 bits were published to Windows Update (and therefore, to Windows Update for Business too) this week, but only offered to PCs currently running Windows 10 Enterprise 1507 (original RTM version) and activated using a MAK product key.


so KMS product key will not upgrade yet?

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