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#193544 14-Mar-2016 18:08
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Hi 

 

The site is an old one written by my dad, and he would like it to be hosted for public viewing. 

 

 

 

Anyway, most of the images are fine, but a small collection of around 7 don't load.  I have example here:

 

http://erewhoninfrance.co.nf/JOURNAL1999.htm

 

 

 

Underneath Friday 30 July is an image called saone.jpg.  The image is in the same folder as the index file.

 

 

 

The html code is: 
<xxxxp align="center"> <img src="saone.JPG" width="778" height="532"></a></font></p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</pxxxx>

 

 

 

I've put the xxxx so you can see the code, obviously there are no xxx in the code itself.

 

 

 

I have tried lower and upper case extension of jpg and neither work. Tested in both chrome and IE and neither work.

 

I also tried a simple img src= line without all the sizing and it didn't load either.

 

The image shows correctly when I open the page on my computer. 

 

The coding seems to be the same as other images that load fine on the website

 

 

 

Any suggestions?  Please explain in simple language because my html is pretty basic.

 

Jo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #1513213 14-Mar-2016 18:19
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I get redirected to http://errors.biz.nf/403.php when I use the url to the images that do not load for me.

 

Maybe it is on the hosting side?


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  #1513215 14-Mar-2016 18:26
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I even get a 403 if I open one of the working images in a new tab. Something is broken, possibly under the guise of copy protection.


 
 
 
 


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  #1513216 14-Mar-2016 18:26
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The html tags are a bit jumbled.  I see this source:

 

<p align="center"> <img src="saone.JPG" width="778" height="532"></a></font></p>

 

 

 

Normally a browser will ignore a lot of the misformed stuff, but maybe remove the </a> and </font> from the paragraph.

 

The web host does seem to give 404's for the url directly to the images, so maybe they are not spelt exactly like that?

 

Otherwise, have you tried anything like

 

<img src="./saone.jpg" />

 

or

 

<img src="~/saone.jpg" />

 

- these vary depending on the web server type and settings.

 

 


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  #1513217 14-Mar-2016 18:27
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Oh, and have you tried a different combination of background and text colors?

 

Just curious   : )

 

 


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  #1513218 14-Mar-2016 18:29
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My immediate thought would be that there's some type of view / access restriction on the image file which prevents it being opened from the public side. The forbidden error mentioned above seems to make this more so the case. 

 

 

 

Are you able to view/change the access rights to the image files on the host?





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  #1513220 14-Mar-2016 18:33
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Also this one is a bit confused:

 

<p></font><font size="4"><font color="#FFFF00">&nbsp;</font><a href="ParisPort.jpg"><img src="ParisPort.jpg" border="0" width="751"
height="509" align="left"></a></font></p>

 

 

 

I don't think you want the <a> tags there.  Maybe change that to simply:

 

<img src="ParisPort.jpg" border="0" width="751" height="509" align="left" />

 

as I don't think you need the font elements etc around the image.  I like to use the closing tag on img elements too;  <img .... />

 

 

 

 


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  #1513221 14-Mar-2016 18:36
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LesF:

 

Also this one is a bit confused:

 

<p></font><font size="4"><font color="#FFFF00">&nbsp;</font><a href="ParisPort.jpg"><img src="ParisPort.jpg" border="0" width="751"
height="509" align="left"></a></font></p>

 

 

 

I don't think you want the <a> tags there.  Maybe change that to simply:

 

<img src="ParisPort.jpg" border="0" width="751" height="509" align="left" />

 

as I don't think you need the font elements etc around the image.  I like to use the closing tag on img elements too;  <img .... />

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think an issue like the above would cause the image to not load by itself though. Most of the other images on that page can load as www.domain.com/imagefile1.jpg, the problematic ones will not which points to a problem with the hosting of the file rather than how it's placed in the webpage.





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  #1513225 14-Mar-2016 18:44
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Yeah, the code is a bit of a mess.  I'm thinking that since it loads ok from my computer it must be a hosting issue.  I'll get in touch and asked them. I can tell them I checked the code with some experts and it's fine (if a bit ropey!).

 

 

 

 


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  #1513227 14-Mar-2016 18:50
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Check the image name is correct, including the case. File names are usually case sensitive.

 

For example.
http://erewhoninfrance.co.nf/Prizelock.JPG is found but http://erewhoninfrance.co.nf/prizelock.JPG returns the 403 error page.  Which really should be a 404 error.

 

 


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  #1513228 14-Mar-2016 18:57
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Check the image file saone.JPG even exists.

 

It appears the server returns 403 error for anything image that is not found.


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  #1513234 14-Mar-2016 19:15
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djtOtago:

 

Check the image name is correct, including the case. File names are usually case sensitive.

 

For example.
http://erewhoninfrance.co.nf/Prizelock.JPG is found but http://erewhoninfrance.co.nf/prizelock.JPG returns the 403 error page.  Which really should be a 404 error.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Turns out you were right.  They got back to me and said they were case sensitive.  Gotta say, that was a quick response from them. (SupportIndeed Dedicated Support Team).


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92 errors, 203 warnings on that page: https://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Ferewhoninfrance.co.nf%2FJOURNAL1999.htm

 

As you now know the errors aren't causing your image problem but may cause other problems down the line.

 

I'm amazed that anyone is still using FrontPage these days, thought it died out years ago.


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  #1513565 15-Mar-2016 10:39
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MurrayM:

 

92 errors, 203 warnings on that page: https://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Ferewhoninfrance.co.nf%2FJOURNAL1999.htm

 

As you now know the errors aren't causing your image problem but may cause other problems down the line.

 

I'm amazed that anyone is still using FrontPage these days, thought it died out years ago.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, it's an old site - It's what he had at the time.

 

 

 

Some of the errors on the link are where I had to put code in to give me an apostrophe.  When I raised the issue with the support desk they came back with this:

 

 

 

1. We have changed the encoding of your HTML page (index.htm) from "iso-8859-1" to "utf-8". Please clear your browser's cache and cookies, then review your page.

 

 

 

When I have time I'll go back and check on this.


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