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  #458896 14-Apr-2011 19:06
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robbyp:
kyhwana2:
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Doesn't copyright expire after 50 years or something. I heard that one media company in another country recently had some laws changed to extend copyright to hundreds of years, after some of their valuable material was due to soon come out of copyright. They have some high up and powerful people.



Life of the author + 50 years. The US is/has extended that to +70 years.


 

I think mickey mouse stuff was due to come of of copyright soon.



Last time it was about to come out of copyright the US Gov extended it..   They will again this time to something like 200 year..




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  #458903 14-Apr-2011 19:24
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kyhwana2: Life of the author + 50 years. The US is/has extended that to +70 years.

Wow, you learn something new every day. For movies it's 50 years after initial public release, but I didn't know that it was different for books.

This means some of my "legal" ebooks are actually illegal after all :(


Er, by "author" I mean person who made the thing. So it goes for movies, etc as well. Any copyrighted work is "life of the author + 50 years"


 
 
 
 


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  #458906 14-Apr-2011 19:28

blakamin:
grolschie:
blakamin: I'm just p*ssed off about the underhanded way they went about this law and the fact they have no idea what they're even on about!


Check this out then:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10719268

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Makes me wonder who'll win the next election? Greens?

If only my Mrs would make the move (oz) but she's lived in the same town for 37 years!

The other thing that gets me is the guilty-until-you-prove-you're-innocent-on-the-whim-of-the-MPAA-etc



 

When it was reported on the news, they said that ISPs will send 'up to' 3 warning letters, and after that they can then take you to the copyright authority, where you can be fined 'up to' $15000. This 'up to' thing isn't clear, as upto could range for zero up to the maximum stated. Therefore 'up to 3 letters' could potentially mean they may not send you any warning letter.

This could also mean that ISPs will be writing lots of letters and having to do a lot more admin work, and I wonder if internet fees will be going up to account for this additional compliance cost.

 

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  #458910 14-Apr-2011 19:45
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i think sunday will air this episode from Bbc next now this law has passed they discuss all the same issues
Panorama S58E10 - Are the Net Police Coming for You.avi

i think everyone should watch it.. maybe theres a youtube link to it somewhere

correction
I said before internet revolution is another series covering a bit of this and more including google and facebook privacy issues and china's web rebels
but its called virtual revolution

but I guess free speech is limited here what you say and type is controlled or posted links

so enough said.. my last blurr on this waste of time stuff

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  #458912 14-Apr-2011 19:57
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Will this new law be targeting the people who frequently download illegally i.e people who torrent 24/7? Or will it target everyone who illegally downloads? A lot of people will be receiving fines/warnings..

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  #458921 14-Apr-2011 20:21
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It starts 1 September?

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  #458926 14-Apr-2011 20:28
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Vote for this idea to have completely anonymous bit torrent downloads:

http://utorrentideas.uservoice.com/forums/47263-torrent-for-windows/suggestions/715120-add-anomos-pr...

What other torrent and p2p clients are there? Make a list here and I will email them to integrate anonymity into their clients.

Also, what paid vpn service based in another country is the fastest to use?

 
 
 
 


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  #458943 14-Apr-2011 21:06
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We should find some MP's IP addresses and report them here for a laugh. The RIAA often sues based on IP address without even knowing who the owner is until they get into court :p

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  #458948 14-Apr-2011 21:14
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wassname: We should find some MP's IP addresses and report them here for a laugh. The RIAA often sues based on IP address without even knowing who the owner is until they get into court :p


The laugh will cost you. Make it worthwhile and get parliament disconnected form the internet. Politicians will learn how incorrect this legislation.
(Sorry to the guys in IT at Parliamentary Services).




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wassname: We should find some MP's IP addresses and report them here for a laugh. The RIAA often sues based on IP address without even knowing who the owner is until they get into court :p

Yea! Great idea! I'll start prank calling pizzas too! We'll show 'em we're not 8 years old!  Treat us at least like 9 year olds!




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  #458957 14-Apr-2011 21:26
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muppet: 
Yea! Great idea! I'll start prank calling pizzas too! We'll show 'em we're not 8 years old!  Treat us at least like 9 year olds!


Ops the html link didn't work:  http://www.reportmusicpiracy.co.nz/  .

Haha, yeah mayby even 10 year olds. 

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  #458977 14-Apr-2011 22:46
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I don't agree with the presumption of guilt. My question is, what can I do about it?

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  #458978 14-Apr-2011 22:47
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Shadowfoot:
wassname: We should find some MP's IP addresses and report them here for a laugh. The RIAA often sues based on IP address without even knowing who the owner is until they get into court :p


The laugh will cost you. Make it worthwhile and get parliament disconnected form the internet. Politicians will learn how incorrect this legislation.
(Sorry to the guys in IT at Parliamentary Services).


I would have thought what was far more likely is people spoof their (Parliament/Ministers Home BB etc) IP's onto a torrent tracker and let RIAA do the dirty work.

Also a few links onto Facebook and a Petition to sign.




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  #458980 14-Apr-2011 23:01
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the day will come when a minister's internet is disconnected because the kids' schoolmates download justin bieber while they're in parliament rushing through some other urgent bills!




Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


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  #458990 14-Apr-2011 23:36
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It is a bit confusing. Is this possible 15k fine only dished out AFTER your 3rd warning, or is this a fine that can come out of nowhere at any time without warning?

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