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  # 1075128 26-Jun-2014 17:17
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Dingbatt: I see after android L revealed at the Google I/O HTC have announced both the M7 and M8 will get it within 90 days of its release. So that would be about December this year, probably the GPE though, so the sense based Ones first quarter of next year.


Holy cow, that's pretty quick. And it seems like they've been pretty good recently at almost perfectly hitting those aggressive promises. Gives me a lot of faith in HTC.

Just a shame that the network verification part is so much longer.


Switch to GPE instead, or grab an OTA copy from whichever market gets it first, maybe? Personally I've wanted to try GPE for a while on my One, might have to just do it...



i'm guessing the phone has to be rooted to get it OTA?




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  # 1075157 26-Jun-2014 18:00
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markl:
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Dingbatt: I see after android L revealed at the Google I/O HTC have announced both the M7 and M8 will get it within 90 days of its release. So that would be about December this year, probably the GPE though, so the sense based Ones first quarter of next year.


Holy cow, that's pretty quick. And it seems like they've been pretty good recently at almost perfectly hitting those aggressive promises. Gives me a lot of faith in HTC.

Just a shame that the network verification part is so much longer.


Switch to GPE instead, or grab an OTA copy from whichever market gets it first, maybe? Personally I've wanted to try GPE for a while on my One, might have to just do it...



i'm guessing the phone has to be rooted to get it OTA?


And S-Off for GPE AFAIK if you have a sense version.

As far as the OTA goes, root doesnt matter but a stock recovery is required if you wait for it to be released via normal means. As mentioned above though you can unlock, load a custom recovery and then flash a rom from what ever market gets it first

To get the OTA early you will need an RUU and quite an arcane procedure to achieve it. XDADevelopers has a treasure trove of info on the options depending how deep and dark you want to go.




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  # 1075319 26-Jun-2014 23:28
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Krishant007: I agree about the HTC sense 6 software additions. Feel that it is probably one of the best skins for android (much better than Touchwiz or Sony's skin). I really wish that HTC make some of the apps available on the Play store so I can actually download it and use it on my Nexus tablet (like the Mail or the Calendar app). 


I don't think touchwiz is that bad to be honest, I have an S4 and when ever I go to an AOSP or cyanogen rom, I start to miss it, especially the camera app, and I like the quick setting toggles better, And its no where near as laggy as it used to be, basically 0 lag, At the moment im using a custom touchwiz rom that gives me S5 features like ultra power saving mode

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  # 1075439 27-Jun-2014 10:00
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Yabanize:I don't think touchwiz is that bad to be honest, I have an S4 and when ever I go to an AOSP or cyanogen rom, I start to miss it, especially the camera app, and I like the quick setting toggles better, And its no where near as laggy as it used to be, basically 0 lag, At the moment im using a custom touchwiz rom that gives me S5 features like ultra power saving mode


I would have agreed with you a couple of years ago but ever since the S2, touchwiz has been so full of bugs that it just isn't funny any more - random crap with apps crashing, the launcher itself dying, PLUS the lag (it's STILL much slower than AOSP on the same hardware) make it just annoying. I'm happier with Sense than I ever was with Touchwiz. It's a shame because they do have one or two user-focussed features that really are great, and have even been "borrowed" for AOSP and other OEM's interfaces.

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  # 1075456 27-Jun-2014 10:46
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Yabanize:I don't think touchwiz is that bad to be honest, I have an S4 and when ever I go to an AOSP or cyanogen rom, I start to miss it, especially the camera app, and I like the quick setting toggles better, And its no where near as laggy as it used to be, basically 0 lag, At the moment im using a custom touchwiz rom that gives me S5 features like ultra power saving mode


I would have agreed with you a couple of years ago but ever since the S2, touchwiz has been so full of bugs that it just isn't funny any more - random crap with apps crashing, the launcher itself dying, PLUS the lag (it's STILL much slower than AOSP on the same hardware) make it just annoying. I'm happier with Sense than I ever was with Touchwiz. It's a shame because they do have one or two user-focussed features that really are great, and have even been "borrowed" for AOSP and other OEM's interfaces.


I would have agreed with you before the S5 came out. I've been nothing but pleasantly surprised about how well the latest slimmed down version of Touchwiz runs. My only complaint would be the abomination that is the grid view settings menu, not a huge fan of the colour scheme either, but aesthetics aside, it runs very well. I would say Sense 6 is the nicest take on Android, but Touchwiz certainly isn't the monster it used to be.



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  # 1075535 27-Jun-2014 14:13
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Yabanize:I don't think touchwiz is that bad to be honest, I have an S4 and when ever I go to an AOSP or cyanogen rom, I start to miss it, especially the camera app, and I like the quick setting toggles better, And its no where near as laggy as it used to be, basically 0 lag, At the moment im using a custom touchwiz rom that gives me S5 features like ultra power saving mode


I would have agreed with you a couple of years ago but ever since the S2, touchwiz has been so full of bugs that it just isn't funny any more - random crap with apps crashing, the launcher itself dying, PLUS the lag (it's STILL much slower than AOSP on the same hardware) make it just annoying. I'm happier with Sense than I ever was with Touchwiz. It's a shame because they do have one or two user-focussed features that really are great, and have even been "borrowed" for AOSP and other OEM's interfaces.


I would have agreed with you before the S5 came out. I've been nothing but pleasantly surprised about how well the latest slimmed down version of Touchwiz runs. My only complaint would be the abomination that is the grid view settings menu, not a huge fan of the colour scheme either, but aesthetics aside, it runs very well. I would say Sense 6 is the nicest take on Android, but Touchwiz certainly isn't the monster it used to be.




I think if you press the menu (3 dots button) you can change it back to a list view

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  # 1075538 27-Jun-2014 14:16
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Yabanize:
bradstewart:
markl:
Yabanize:I don't think touchwiz is that bad to be honest, I have an S4 and when ever I go to an AOSP or cyanogen rom, I start to miss it, especially the camera app, and I like the quick setting toggles better, And its no where near as laggy as it used to be, basically 0 lag, At the moment im using a custom touchwiz rom that gives me S5 features like ultra power saving mode


I would have agreed with you a couple of years ago but ever since the S2, touchwiz has been so full of bugs that it just isn't funny any more - random crap with apps crashing, the launcher itself dying, PLUS the lag (it's STILL much slower than AOSP on the same hardware) make it just annoying. I'm happier with Sense than I ever was with Touchwiz. It's a shame because they do have one or two user-focussed features that really are great, and have even been "borrowed" for AOSP and other OEM's interfaces.


I would have agreed with you before the S5 came out. I've been nothing but pleasantly surprised about how well the latest slimmed down version of Touchwiz runs. My only complaint would be the abomination that is the grid view settings menu, not a huge fan of the colour scheme either, but aesthetics aside, it runs very well. I would say Sense 6 is the nicest take on Android, but Touchwiz certainly isn't the monster it used to be.




I think if you press the menu (3 dots button) you can change it back to a list view


Oh that was the first thing I did when I got the phone. I was just generally commenting on what an abomination it was, they removed the toggles from list view as well which was less than awesome.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1079218 3-Jul-2014 10:44
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Just got the new Sense 6 update.

Not keen on the . . . . taking up screen space, just to tell me what page I'm on. cant see a way to turn it off.
Also, don't like what they have done with the built-in widget buttons.



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  # 1086535 10-Jul-2014 17:26
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In case anybody is interested, have just had a call to say my phone has also been replaced for a brand new one by HTC for the purple tint issue. So if anybody else has that problem, sounds highly likely you can get a new phone if you send it back, given that seems to be the outcome for everyone that's commented in here so far.

Think I'm going to sell the replacement, and try and pick between an M8 or Nexus 5, or possibly even hold onto this Moto G until it's confirmed whether there'll be a Nexus 6 in a couple of months



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  # 1088703 14-Jul-2014 15:33
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I dropped my phone in in the weekend to get the purple haze camera problem sorted. It is 14 months old, rooted but with the stock rom and recovery. I will be interested to see what they come back to me with. I was at pains to point out it is a known hardware fault. Hope it doesn't take too long and I achieve a positive outcome i.e. the same pristine handset back with the camera fixed at no cost to me.




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  # 1088767 14-Jul-2014 17:22
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Dingbatt: I dropped my phone in in the weekend to get the purple haze camera problem sorted. It is 14 months old, rooted but with the stock rom and recovery. I will be interested to see what they come back to me with. I was at pains to point out it is a known hardware fault. Hope it doesn't take too long and I achieve a positive outcome i.e. the same pristine handset back with the camera fixed at no cost to me.


I just read the 'dropped my phone' part.. Then realised what it was about haha

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  # 1088831 14-Jul-2014 19:18
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Dingbatt: I dropped my phone in in the weekend to get the purple haze camera problem sorted. It is 14 months old, rooted but with the stock rom and recovery. I will be interested to see what they come back to me with. I was at pains to point out it is a known hardware fault. Hope it doesn't take too long and I achieve a positive outcome i.e. the same pristine handset back with the camera fixed at no cost to me.


Good luck, took about 10 working days for me from sending it off, to receiving the replacement. No contact in between, just a phone call when it arrived back to let me know to come and pick it up.

Have listed mine on trademe, already had people mucking me around, awesome



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  # 1089043 15-Jul-2014 09:09
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Not really after a new handset. Just want my original back with an operable camera. Just so I can last through til MWC 2015 when HTC announce the M9 (hopefully an incremental improvement on the M8).




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  # 1095003 24-Jul-2014 14:51
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Dingbatt: Not really after a new handset. Just want my original back with an operable camera. Just so I can last through til MWC 2015 when HTC announce the M9 (hopefully an incremental improvement on the M8).


Got my phone back yesterday, or more accurately a brand new phone in the same manner as LazyDr did in the post 2 above. While I said I didn't want a new handset that was just because the old one was perfect, with no dents, scratches, gaps, etc and everything except the camera worked perfectly. It was also unlocked and rooted so laziness also played a part.
However, now that I have closely inspected and tested all the hardware, and unlocked and rooted the new One, I am happy and have had my faith in HTC restored, along with a Titanium backup from the old One.
So all new hardware including a zero time battery should well and truly see me through to the M9.

A good outcome from my perspective, as I thought I may have had to argue my case. But no, the job sheet that came back with the new One said "hardware fault confirmed, replaced with new unit" The whole evolution took 6 working days.




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  # 1095309 24-Jul-2014 23:51
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That great service was part of the reason I chose to replace my M7 with the M8 (instead of one of the other flagships), knowing I won't run into issues with HTC if this phone has any problems as well

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