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  Reply # 810679 3-May-2013 10:53
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italtronic:
freitasm:
eracode:
italtronic: My arrive tomorrow too, ordered from Exeltek Melbourne  for only NZ$835 included DHL shipping.Laughing


Plus GST?


Plus the customs fee charged by DHL when they contact you to pay the GST?

Plus GST alone this would bring the device to NZ$960. Telecom will sell it for NZ$999. Add the customs fee and the lack of local warranty makes it expensive compared to local price.




I ended up pay gst, duty etc. of  $167 totalling my phone purchase at $1000. Oh well i least i secured myself one.


Would be great to hear your initial thoughts on your new HTC! 

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  Reply # 810680 3-May-2013 11:02
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Hollidog:
littlehead: Could someone with an HTC One please post how much of the ~25GB available storage is available for apps and how much is, essentially, the SD card storage for media? Or is it all available for the use of anything? I'm asking because I seem to remember the One X had it's storage partitioned into Internal App/Data storage and sd card?

I'm trying to compare this to the S4's available storage, and with the HTC One's very similar name to many other HTC models, trying to find an answer for this specific question isn't as easy as it should be. I'm not really concerned with app storage, mainly media for when I'm infrequently travelling.


From a few pages back:

bradstewart: 25.4 GB free for storage.


Yes, but does that figure include the amount reserved for apps or not? and how much is reserved for apps?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 810692 3-May-2013 11:11
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littlehead:
Hollidog:
littlehead: Could someone with an HTC One please post how much of the ~25GB available storage is available for apps and how much is, essentially, the SD card storage for media? Or is it all available for the use of anything? I'm asking because I seem to remember the One X had it's storage partitioned into Internal App/Data storage and sd card?

I'm trying to compare this to the S4's available storage, and with the HTC One's very similar name to many other HTC models, trying to find an answer for this specific question isn't as easy as it should be. I'm not really concerned with app storage, mainly media for when I'm infrequently travelling.


From a few pages back:

bradstewart: 25.4 GB free for storage.


Yes, but does that figure include the amount reserved for apps or not? and how much is reserved for apps?


It is ALL potentially available for apps, Android has been this way for a while now.




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  Reply # 810710 3-May-2013 11:29
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Ok everyone. I'm typing this on my One.

As I said I ordered on Wednesday and received it onnthursday from EBay seller personal digital. Price was 799$ Au so around 1000$nz. He declared the value as 200$ so no Gst.

now to the important stuff.

I just woke up , and the first thing I wanted to do was just pick the One up and feel the cold aluminum. This thing is just simply stunning. A work of art. Can't explain it.

Speed is amazing , sense is is at it's best. I had 25gb available out of the box.

I cant go in to detail since I'm typing on the One. Maybe we are past that stage but if anyone is keen I can post some photos. And any questions are welcome.


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  Reply # 810724 3-May-2013 11:56
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NZtechfreak:
littlehead:

Yes, but does that figure include the amount reserved for apps or not? and how much is reserved for apps?


It is ALL potentially available for apps, Android has been this way for a while now.


Thats good to know. I've always hated having to juggle storage on my Desire. Moving everything and anything between System, Internal Data, SDCard and SD-Ext, and all the various apps/scripts to do so, while interesting, gets tiring after a while. I had considered the lack of a SD Card a tick against the One, but perhaps if it means no fiddling with storage, this could actually be a bonus. Especially as out of the box the S4 doesn't allow you to move apps to the SD card without root and something like Link2SD.

Hmmm, actually having just done some reading on this, USB mass storage has been completely removed as of 4.0. MTP only. That's certainly annoying, for me anyway. No matter what device I get, I'm going to have to figure out something to make my syncing scripts work. Oh well, price of progress I suppose.

Thanks for info, my decision on this has gone back to what it was, wait and see...

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  Reply # 810728 3-May-2013 12:16
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littlehead: Thats good to know. I've always hated having to juggle storage on my Desire. Moving everything and anything between System, Internal Data, SDCard and SD-Ext, and all the various apps/scripts to do so, while interesting, gets tiring after a while. I had considered the lack of a SD Card a tick against the One, but perhaps if it means no fiddling with storage, this could actually be a bonus. Especially as out of the box the S4 doesn't allow you to move apps to the SD card without root and something like Link2SD.

Hmmm, actually having just done some reading on this, USB mass storage has been completely removed as of 4.0. MTP only. That's certainly annoying, for me anyway. No matter what device I get, I'm going to have to figure out something to make my syncing scripts work. Oh well, price of progress I suppose.

Thanks for info, my decision on this has gone back to what it was, wait and see...


Yeah, MTP is a pain.

Also, 666th reply to the thread!




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  Reply # 810735 3-May-2013 12:35
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littlehead:

Hmmm, actually having just done some reading on this, USB mass storage has been completely removed as of 4.0. MTP only. That's certainly annoying, for me anyway. No matter what device I get, I'm going to have to figure out something to make my syncing scripts work. Oh well, price of progress I suppose.

Thanks for info, my decision on this has gone back to what it was, wait and see...


Not sure what you mean here, as you can move stuff onto the HTC one just as it it were a USB drive, I've just done it with music.




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  Reply # 810743 3-May-2013 12:44
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Technofreak:
littlehead:

Hmmm, actually having just done some reading on this, USB mass storage has been completely removed as of 4.0. MTP only. That's certainly annoying, for me anyway. No matter what device I get, I'm going to have to figure out something to make my syncing scripts work. Oh well, price of progress I suppose.

Thanks for info, my decision on this has gone back to what it was, wait and see...


Not sure what you mean here, as you can move stuff onto the HTC one just as it it were a USB drive, I've just done it with music.


No, MTP does not in fact work just like a USB drive. Superficially the differences can be non-apparent, main thing being reduced transfer speeds, but wait until you try to copy many small files in a transfer, or a file type that MTP doesn't recognise. I find it extremely annoying, as do many others.




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  Reply # 810783 3-May-2013 13:05
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Technofreak: It looks like my HTC One is afflicted with the "No Notification" of texts ailment that been reported on earlier HTC's. Frown

There's no message tone and no notification light yet when you unlock the phone the number of unread message shows on the message icon.


Hmmm. I haven't noticed this.





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  Reply # 810809 3-May-2013 14:00
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NZtechfreak:
Technofreak:
littlehead:

Hmmm, actually having just done some reading on this, USB mass storage has been completely removed as of 4.0. MTP only. That's certainly annoying, for me anyway. No matter what device I get, I'm going to have to figure out something to make my syncing scripts work. Oh well, price of progress I suppose.

Thanks for info, my decision on this has gone back to what it was, wait and see...


Not sure what you mean here, as you can move stuff onto the HTC one just as it it were a USB drive, I've just done it with music.


No, MTP does not in fact work just like a USB drive. Superficially the differences can be non-apparent, main thing being reduced transfer speeds, but wait until you try to copy many small files in a transfer, or a file type that MTP doesn't recognise. I find it extremely annoying, as do many others.


USB Mass Storage is not possible as it requires the storage to be unmounted from the device. This is possible when using an SD card (though it was a pain if you had your apps on it).

MTP allows you to transfer files to/from the device while the storage is also being used by the device. It does have the drawback as mentioned of slower speeds and you can do simultaneous transfers.

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  Reply # 810815 3-May-2013 14:13
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freitasm:
Technofreak: It looks like my HTC One is afflicted with the "No Notification" of texts ailment that been reported on earlier HTC's. Frown

There's no message tone and no notification light yet when you unlock the phone the number of unread message shows on the message icon.


Hmmm. I haven't noticed this.



It worked the first day I had it but since then nothing, perhaps a factory reset might work.




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  Reply # 811005 3-May-2013 20:39
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bradstewart:
Brendan:
bradstewart:
Brendan: I think it's pretty stupid that telecom has disabled the LTE on the phone. Now, i can't use it anyway - we wont see LTE here for at least 100 years. But I'd like the option.


You're aware that both Telecom and VF are launching LTE this year right?


I am.

Stupid as it may be, I was referring to where *I* live when talking about services *I* can avail myself of.

It's not stupid that they have disabled.


Yes it is.

I can see them testing the network and having muppets being able to see it, not connect to it and then ring them and complain.


Unlikely.
Vodafone didn't think it was a problem.

They'll enable it when the network goes live. What's the problem?


Modifying system software introduces the possibility of bugs and problems. Modifying it twice triples the chances (one mod to turn LTE off, another to turn it on, and interactions between the two mods - I assume for now it requires a rom flash). Given this is for no material gain (I reject your hypothesis), the decision is merit-less.

It was a decision, I suggest, made by some marketing department pricks. They'll charge you to have LTE, wait and see. 



You just criticised them for an assumption that you have made about the way you think they have done things and not how they actually are in the real world where the need for tinfoil hats is lessened by fact.

The way this works is that the software checks the modem for LTE status and since it is disabled it doesn't show the LTE options. If you were to flash a different radio then the LTE options would magically appear. This is something HTC have included, not Telecom.


You make plenty of assumptions yourself.

None of that negates what I said, and is irrelevant. I am not interested in whether LTE appears in the options or not; I am saying it does not matter in regard to helpdesk calls any more than people calling up because they cannot connect to vodafone with their XT sim does.

Telecom are selling a phone for you to use with their service which is either subsidised or sold at little to no profit. They disable a feature because it is not yet supported by their network. In what way are you disadvantaged by not having the option to enable a non existent feature?


Your disingenuous comment does not disguise the fact they did not need to disable it.

Any presumptive arguments on your part as to WHY they did it are pure speculation and I do not like you trying to assert otherwise. If you know better and have some official comment from Telecom on the subject, you should have said so by now - lest we think you are trolling.

 Telecom are well within their rights


Possibly; that does not make it wise or necessary.

and yes it does make sense that they would disable a feature that does not yet work.


No it does not, and I do not care if you try to assert your opinions as facts a billion times. Unless you present some official comment from telecom, that remains YOUR opinion.

Upon presentation of said official comment, I reserve the right to object to that to.

That is MY right. Thanks.

I can hear the calls to CS right now with people complaining about the 4G option on their new One not working.


You cant here any such thing "right now", as the phone is not officially released and since you apparently do not work in the call center of telecom you cant here anything of the sort.

What you actually mean is you THINK they might call, you assume it will be a problem, and you THINK it might cause trouble for the help desk.

Guesswork. Devoid of all hard facts.

Oh, I have guesswork too - never claimed otherwise. I am not claiming to "hear it now" etc however...

If you must have the useless LTE option right away then check with VF and see if theirs will support it or buy an international one.


I'll do as I please, thanks, and I'll debate the necessity of LTE being turned off if I like, thanks very much. If that's alright with you Dad.

Now, I suggest you drop the subject as I am sure everyone is very sick of it now. I certainly am, and I never anticipated your over heated missives on it.

I object to the disabled LTE; You love it. I think we understand each other fine. End of.


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tankzor:
cathy88: Which NL is this, is it in CHCH?

I should go try the same, or quote you as a friend and request for same price.


It was in Dunedin - a Bond & Bond that was recently changed NL (centre of town, george St).

Try quoting me as a friend if you like - Julian Moller, Dunedin.

Perhaps try mentioning that people pre-ordered during the Easter sale and you want the same deal?

GL


Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately they still wouldnt do it.

I asked what was the cheapest they could do and he said $880.00.

Interesting that for three noel leemings store Ive been told the cheapest they could do

1. $950
2. $920
3. $880

How can it be different given they are the same store? Does anyone work at NL care to explain how much they really make on this device ^^

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  Reply # 811015 3-May-2013 20:54
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cathy88:
tankzor:
cathy88: Which NL is this, is it in CHCH?

I should go try the same, or quote you as a friend and request for same price.


It was in Dunedin - a Bond & Bond that was recently changed NL (centre of town, george St).

Try quoting me as a friend if you like - Julian Moller, Dunedin.

Perhaps try mentioning that people pre-ordered during the Easter sale and you want the same deal?

GL


Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately they still wouldnt do it.

I asked what was the cheapest they could do and he said $880.00.

Interesting that for three noel leemings store Ive been told the cheapest they could do

1. $950
2. $920
3. $880

How can it be different given they are the same store? Does anyone work at NL care to explain how much they really make on this device ^^


I got them down to $900. So $880 sounds ok. Maybe it's a commission thing? Try Harvey Norman?

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