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  # 943540 30-Nov-2013 22:46
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JamesL: You sure its not in the priority inbox vs the standard inbox


Nope. Checked twice.

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  # 943611 1-Dec-2013 09:36
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FazerDude:
ZombieJohn: Alrighty so I just picked up my Nexus 5. This thing is bloody fantastic. After weeks deliberating where I wanted to head with my phone purchase, the Nexus 5 won my vote and I am very pleased. 

Picked it up from the Albany mall 2degrees store this morning. Really looking forward to figuring out what accessories I want to buy too. Any recommendations? I'm thinking a case and a wireless charger for starters.



Ditch the case idea - go naked! Why spoil the experience?

I've ordered me a genuine Nexus Wireless Charger from Amazon - same price as US Play store - magnetic location of phone/tablet - looking forward to that arriving.


The genuine charger is well priced from Amazon at $75 NZD including shipping - but will it be compatible with NZ 240 power output? I'm guessing it will arrive with a US plug as well? 

 
 
 
 


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  # 943630 1-Dec-2013 10:03
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dafman:The genuine charger is well priced from Amazon at $75 NZD including shipping - but will it be compatible with NZ 240 power output? I'm guessing it will arrive with a US plug as well? 


I'm hoping it will be compatible, I've ordered 3. I had no issue with the original n4 charger I got from the play store.

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  # 943929 2-Dec-2013 09:46
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FazerDude:
dafman:
sson013: At the NZ prices Playtech/Warehouse is selling for you might as well go for a parallel imported Xperia Z1 which has far superior specs. The N5 is only worth the money at the steep discount price from the Google Play store, it is definitely not worth it at prices that approach flagship models.


The Z1 is bigger and heavier.
The Z1 doesn't run pure android (I have the Xperia Z tablet and as good as the Sony UI is, it is not as clean as pure Kit Kat).
The Z1 is not running Kit Kat (and who knows when Sony will provide it - and keep it up to date over time?).
The Z1 does not have Gorilla Glass 3 (my 'scratch-proof' Xperia Z tablet has a lovely 1 inch scratch already and it hasn't had a hard life).

Ok, the Z1 has a better camera, is waterproof etc, bigger battery, but by no means is it a no-brainer choice over the Nexus. I turned down a Z1 for $699 a couple of weeks ago and have gone with the Nexus. Couldn't be happier.


Why shouldn't the N5 have a flagship price when it's a flagship phone?!

For my money, even at $700 for a non-parallel imported recent release flagship phone - the price is hard to argue with. Certainly it's higher than those in countries with a Play store have to pay, but that's always going to be the case until Google realise that we in NZ are keen early adopters and then decide that they care enough to help us.  Look at what the normal retailers (i.e not Google) in the US are charging for the N5 and our deal here looks pretty sharp.

I'm loving my phone - and it's smoking fast. And I'm not even using ART. Boot time <30 s is awesome compared to my old GNex.



I might be a little bias because of my negative experience with the N5 (I don't think so though).

When my friend originally offered to get me the 32GB version we were under the assumption it would cost $450 + 20-30$ shipping (from google) + 30-40$ (to nz). Turns out it would cost $100AUD which put the total cost nearing $650NZD+. To me personally this already killed a lot of the "value" in my mind but I knew it'd still be worth 800-900$ on TradeMe if I ever changed my mind. 

While you might consider the N5 a flagship level phone, it really isn't in my opinion. Other than the latest Snapdragon processor (which is a given due to time of the product release) and a decent screen, there is nothing else that makes it stand out (other than being the first KitKat/ "google experience" but that's a software feature and will apply to other phones soon and going stock Google should be easy for anyone on this forum) phone. It has substandard speakers, camera, no mem card slot, average construction /design. LG isn't competitive in the smart phone market for good reason. Nexus's has always been positioned more towards the value buyer there is no question that price/performance ratio is unbeatable just like the N4 but price/performance ratio doesn't make a flagship phone. 

I already have an HTC One modded with GPE device ID for OTAs so I was actually just going to give my N5 to a family member as I saw no real compelling reason to switch. If someone gave me a Z1(not actually a fan of Z1 design though) or Note 3, yeah I'd switch to the newer phone. 


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  # 944189 2-Dec-2013 15:28
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sson013:
FazerDude:
dafman:
sson013: At the NZ prices Playtech/Warehouse is selling for you might as well go for a parallel imported Xperia Z1 which has far superior specs. The N5 is only worth the money at the steep discount price from the Google Play store, it is definitely not worth it at prices that approach flagship models.


The Z1 is bigger and heavier.
The Z1 doesn't run pure android (I have the Xperia Z tablet and as good as the Sony UI is, it is not as clean as pure Kit Kat).
The Z1 is not running Kit Kat (and who knows when Sony will provide it - and keep it up to date over time?).
The Z1 does not have Gorilla Glass 3 (my 'scratch-proof' Xperia Z tablet has a lovely 1 inch scratch already and it hasn't had a hard life).

Ok, the Z1 has a better camera, is waterproof etc, bigger battery, but by no means is it a no-brainer choice over the Nexus. I turned down a Z1 for $699 a couple of weeks ago and have gone with the Nexus. Couldn't be happier.


Why shouldn't the N5 have a flagship price when it's a flagship phone?!

For my money, even at $700 for a non-parallel imported recent release flagship phone - the price is hard to argue with. Certainly it's higher than those in countries with a Play store have to pay, but that's always going to be the case until Google realise that we in NZ are keen early adopters and then decide that they care enough to help us.  Look at what the normal retailers (i.e not Google) in the US are charging for the N5 and our deal here looks pretty sharp.

I'm loving my phone - and it's smoking fast. And I'm not even using ART. Boot time <30 s is awesome compared to my old GNex.



I might be a little bias because of my negative experience with the N5 (I don't think so though).

When my friend originally offered to get me the 32GB version we were under the assumption it would cost $450 + 20-30$ shipping (from google) + 30-40$ (to nz). Turns out it would cost $100AUD which put the total cost nearing $650NZD+. To me personally this already killed a lot of the "value" in my mind but I knew it'd still be worth 800-900$ on TradeMe if I ever changed my mind. 

While you might consider the N5 a flagship level phone, it really isn't in my opinion. Other than the latest Snapdragon processor (which is a given due to time of the product release) and a decent screen, there is nothing else that makes it stand out (other than being the first KitKat/ "google experience" but that's a software feature and will apply to other phones soon and going stock Google should be easy for anyone on this forum) phone. It has substandard speakers, camera, no mem card slot, average construction /design. LG isn't competitive in the smart phone market for good reason. Nexus's has always been positioned more towards the value buyer there is no question that price/performance ratio is unbeatable just like the N4 but price/performance ratio doesn't make a flagship phone. 

I already have an HTC One modded with GPE device ID for OTAs so I was actually just going to give my N5 to a family member as I saw no real compelling reason to switch. If someone gave me a Z1(not actually a fan of Z1 design though) or Note 3, yeah I'd switch to the newer phone. 



Other than the world's fastest processor, the best resolution screen and the very latest in operating system ... there ain't much left (-;

And IMHO you are being a bit tough on the construction/design. It aint the N5 that's sporting a plastic leather back complete with faux stitching!

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  # 944535 3-Dec-2013 09:39
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1 finger pull down from top brings up notification screen, 2 finger pull down from top goes directly to quick settings. A little tip for those who haven't discovered it yet (-;

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  # 944764 3-Dec-2013 14:53
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dafman: 1 finger pull down from top brings up notification screen, 2 finger pull down from top goes directly to quick settings. A little tip for those who haven't discovered it yet (-;

Nice one! Didn't know that one.

Into the third week of my nexus and am really liking it. Still a few moments when I have a mind blank in android (after 3 years of iOS) but getting better. Still haven't got it 100% how I like it but getting there.

Battery life is still a little concern but I seem to be able to get through the day pretty much every day now without having to sacrifice usage time. Compared to Iphone 5 it isn't that great but the screen more than makes up for it. Compared to the iphone I would class the n5 as a phablet :)

 
 
 
 


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# 944875 3-Dec-2013 17:17
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droopanu: What do you know, just got an email from Becextech that my N5-32GB it's on it's way, with a tracking code. I can see it left HK today.
Let's see if there are any issues with customs or not :)


So I got the N5 from BecexTech on 27th. Only 12 days later, and that includes shipping from HK.
I noticed that they are doing something tricky, the value on the package was declared at 250NZD. So while they are saying that the prices include GST, I believe that they are just avoiding paying it for most cases. 
Anyway, I love the phone. From all points of view it's an upgrade from the N4, except for one. It's edges are way too sharp!
Swiping from the side is not very pleasant.
Feels very uncomfortable holding at the ear and it's hurting the ear. Plus my finger keeps resting on the camera lens, and that feels very sharp too ...

Anybody else having same issues? :)

I know ... first world problems :)

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  # 944885 3-Dec-2013 17:51
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i found a nice side effect of the case was i stopped placing finger in front of lens when trying to take a pic :)

havent noticed the sharpness to be honest though.

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  # 944932 3-Dec-2013 19:07
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The xposed framework is working perfectly with the N5, got it installed a few modules running now!

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  # 944986 3-Dec-2013 21:37
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dafman:
FazerDude:
ZombieJohn: Alrighty so I just picked up my Nexus 5. This thing is bloody fantastic. After weeks deliberating where I wanted to head with my phone purchase, the Nexus 5 won my vote and I am very pleased. 

Picked it up from the Albany mall 2degrees store this morning. Really looking forward to figuring out what accessories I want to buy too. Any recommendations? I'm thinking a case and a wireless charger for starters.



Ditch the case idea - go naked! Why spoil the experience?

I've ordered me a genuine Nexus Wireless Charger from Amazon - same price as US Play store - magnetic location of phone/tablet - looking forward to that arriving.


The genuine charger is well priced from Amazon at $75 NZD including shipping - but will it be compatible with NZ 240 power output? I'm guessing it will arrive with a US plug as well? 


Nothing that a pair of pliers won't fix. I've twisted the pins on heaps of power supplies. They don' really need that much twist before they'll find their way into one of our outlets.

I've also never had a problem with voltage on a modern charger - they all seem to be multi-voltage these days so I don't really even think about that side of things.

Bought my original Nexus 7 in the US while on holiday there last year - quick twist of the pins when I got back and you'd never know the difference.

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  # 944988 3-Dec-2013 21:42
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dafman: 1 finger pull down from top brings up notification screen, 2 finger pull down from top goes directly to quick settings. A little tip for those who haven't discovered it yet (-;


The 2 finger down-swipe has been there since Jellybean, but it's just too difficult to do with one hand - so I never use it. I'd really prefer it to be the same as the Nexus 7 with a down-swipe on the left for notifications and on the right for the settings - that would be so much better imho - and would make much more sense on a phone sized device where you're more likely to be using it with one hand.

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  # 945007 3-Dec-2013 22:45
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dafman:
sson013:
FazerDude:
dafman:
sson013: At the NZ prices Playtech/Warehouse is selling for you might as well go for a parallel imported Xperia Z1 which has far superior specs. The N5 is only worth the money at the steep discount price from the Google Play store, it is definitely not worth it at prices that approach flagship models.


The Z1 is bigger and heavier.
The Z1 doesn't run pure android (I have the Xperia Z tablet and as good as the Sony UI is, it is not as clean as pure Kit Kat).
The Z1 is not running Kit Kat (and who knows when Sony will provide it - and keep it up to date over time?).
The Z1 does not have Gorilla Glass 3 (my 'scratch-proof' Xperia Z tablet has a lovely 1 inch scratch already and it hasn't had a hard life).

Ok, the Z1 has a better camera, is waterproof etc, bigger battery, but by no means is it a no-brainer choice over the Nexus. I turned down a Z1 for $699 a couple of weeks ago and have gone with the Nexus. Couldn't be happier.


Why shouldn't the N5 have a flagship price when it's a flagship phone?!

For my money, even at $700 for a non-parallel imported recent release flagship phone - the price is hard to argue with. Certainly it's higher than those in countries with a Play store have to pay, but that's always going to be the case until Google realise that we in NZ are keen early adopters and then decide that they care enough to help us.  Look at what the normal retailers (i.e not Google) in the US are charging for the N5 and our deal here looks pretty sharp.

I'm loving my phone - and it's smoking fast. And I'm not even using ART. Boot time <30 s is awesome compared to my old GNex.



I might be a little bias because of my negative experience with the N5 (I don't think so though).

When my friend originally offered to get me the 32GB version we were under the assumption it would cost $450 + 20-30$ shipping (from google) + 30-40$ (to nz). Turns out it would cost $100AUD which put the total cost nearing $650NZD+. To me personally this already killed a lot of the "value" in my mind but I knew it'd still be worth 800-900$ on TradeMe if I ever changed my mind. 

While you might consider the N5 a flagship level phone, it really isn't in my opinion. Other than the latest Snapdragon processor (which is a given due to time of the product release) and a decent screen, there is nothing else that makes it stand out (other than being the first KitKat/ "google experience" but that's a software feature and will apply to other phones soon and going stock Google should be easy for anyone on this forum) phone. It has substandard speakers, camera, no mem card slot, average construction /design. LG isn't competitive in the smart phone market for good reason. Nexus's has always been positioned more towards the value buyer there is no question that price/performance ratio is unbeatable just like the N4 but price/performance ratio doesn't make a flagship phone. 

I already have an HTC One modded with GPE device ID for OTAs so I was actually just going to give my N5 to a family member as I saw no real compelling reason to switch. If someone gave me a Z1(not actually a fan of Z1 design though) or Note 3, yeah I'd switch to the newer phone. 



Other than the world's fastest processor, the best resolution screen and the very latest in operating system ... there ain't much left (-;

And IMHO you are being a bit tough on the construction/design. It aint the N5 that's sporting a plastic leather back complete with faux stitching!


Yeah, no one's made the perfect phone yet though. Every manufacturer has their own version of what a flagship phone should look like. All of them have a compromise somewhere - just as LG has made compromises with the N5. And probably all purchasers have their own version of what a flagship phone should look like too. Some love the over the top "specs" and bloatware that Samsung fill their devices with - others don't like the plastic finish. Some love the case and speakers on the HTC One, while others complain that it's battery can't be changed out. Don't know a lot about the Z1, but the jury is still out on whether Sony can keep their phone OS up to date. The N5 is there-or-thereabouts with most of it's specs, so for my money that qualifies it as a flagship phone. You might argue that it's not the best flagship phone - but I might argue that when you take price into account it most certainly is. I'd also be confident that it'll still be running the latest version of Android by the time I replace it in 2 years. I doubt one could make the same claim for most other flagship manufacturers.

I find the whole focus on "specs" to be quite interesting. Most of the time I think we're being convinced that we need something that we'll never even notice in everyday use. Octa-core processors, screen resolutions in the 400 dpi's - when most of the time we don't use more than 2 cores and you can't see the screen pixels with a naked eye anyway. The outcry when the Moto X was released was that it was just a mid-range phone, but with a flagship price. In reality though, the flagship nature of the Moto X was to be found in the way that it used its particular hardware setup to give great performance while making it seamless to use and very battery efficient. Now that we know that Motorola can bring out OS updates in super quick time, we can see that it really is a flagship device.

A particular criticism of the Moto X was a lack of 1080p screen resolution, but it appears that while Samsung call theirs 1080p, the pen-tile display means it's only green that's at 1080p, with red and blue half that. Not that it really matters if the result is good - and that's where the "specs" don't tell the whole story.

The other issue I find interesting is this whole "build quality" one, when what we're talking about has nothing at all to do with build quality, and everything to do with choice of materials. There's no arguing the HTC One is one sexy beast, but most people will cover it up with a cheap knock-off plastic cover and screen protector anyway, so I don't see how the "build quality" is helping them. At least with My N5, I can leave it uncovered, as the rubberised back is unlikely to scratch - and it's not slippery.

As far as removable storage goes - you'll never see that on a Nexus phone. Google don't believe in it. They don't want people to have to worry about where files have been stored - they don't think users should need to use a file explorer. Much like iOS - do you know where files are stored on an iPhone? Nope. They are just in there somewhere and the relevant apps can find them - and that's all you need to know. The biggest problem for us is that 2 Degrees in their wisdom have seen fit to only import the 16 GB version. Personally I think that's short sighted. Just like when Google brought out the Nexus 7 in 8 GB and 16 GB versions - they thought everyone would lap up the cheap 8 GB versions, but everyone wanted 16GB at what was still a great price.

You've not mentioned removable battery, but that is another frequent complaint. Removable batteries are great, but the reality is that they can put a much larger battery in if they don't make it removable. In order to have a removable battery, they need to cover the battery in plastic which all takes up precious space. Then they need to put another complete plastic cover over the back of the phone so you don't wreck it when you have the cover off - all more space. With none of this, they get much more flexibility with battery size, thickness and placement to glean the maximum mAh out of the space available.

Anyway that's probably enough rambling from me - I'm loving my N5, but each to their own. The great thing about the current market is, there are plenty of choices. You can have any flagship phone you like for the price of an N5 - you just might have to wait a year!

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  # 945015 3-Dec-2013 22:56
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azzaj:
FazerDude: Ditch the case idea - go naked! Why spoil the experience?

I've ordered me a genuine Nexus Wireless Charger from Amazon - same price as US Play store - magnetic location of phone/tablet - looking forward to that arriving.


I'm ultra paranoid about any camera that sits flush with the back of the phone.  a redesigned back with a hump for the camera would be awesome.

I ordered the owl car pad and deskpad qi chargers, i will pick them up on monday, the nexus charger does look good tho.

google are still slacking with a car charger dock which i find annoying after the gnex (when the dock eventually came out a year after launch of the phone) and the last 2 motorolas which all had excellent genuine car docks.

LG also stopped making their excellent "smart fit2" car dock which had a fitting to take their in house qi charger, there are a few left on ebay but dumb money $300 for something verizon was selling for 25 at one stage.  


Do you think Google will actually front with a car dock?

The GNex desk and car dock debacle was a complete indictment on Samsung - it was ridiculous how long they took to actually get any into the stores. I do use mine - but to be honest I didn't really think much of the design (of either dock). The car dock was way too hard to get the phone in and out of, didn't have a built in speaker and was ridiculously priced. The desk dock was a cool idea, but a little to difficult to set the phone into in the dark. I also had both docks for my N1 and they were way easier to use - apart from the fact that all the car docks broke near the clip.

So no pogo pins on the N5 - does this mean no recognition of what dock it is in - or does NFC somehow handle that?

I'm trying to think of a way to mount my Nexus Wireless Charger on an angle so I can use the N5 as a bedside clock - still got a bit of time before it arrives.

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  # 945020 3-Dec-2013 22:58
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Man, FazerDude, you need to shut up - you're hogging the forum!

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