Custom Rom for Galaxy S4 i9505: Google Edition vs Echoe vs Cyanogenmod?

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# 969901 20-Jan-2014 10:37

tanivula: Ah, with echo focusing on KK now, I've got a new favourite 4.3 ROM - Goldeneye. Seems ultra smooth and very responsive.

From reading on XDA looks a new bootloader is required if you want a fully functional KK ROM. Hopefully our friends at Samsung drop off since fresh sauce for the devs to work their magic on.

Hmmm, maybe it's time to try a GPe ROM perhaps..... I dunno, I've strangely grown accustomed to TW!

I think TW is great, well not the launcher as I use Nova but certainly the Sammy software has some good stuff. I like the camera softwarem, the new Sammy keyboard is very good for me and the drop down notification far easier than AOSP which I have been on for over a month.

I see the new bootloader needs flashed so need to get my head around this but I've never been worried about those sort of things voiding warranty before so will most likely flash the bootloader.

I see Wanam is back with a Kitkat Rom for I9505 which is good as his Rom's suit me as pretty basic made for good battery life.

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# 974148 25-Jan-2014 15:32

does anyone know if i can use stock rooted kernel for echoe rom? and if not, which rom would be as close to stock, have no knox, and compatible with stock rooted kernel?

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# 974173 25-Jan-2014 17:30

joker97: does anyone know if i can use stock rooted kernel for echoe rom? and if not, which rom would be as close to stock, have no knox, and compatible with stock rooted kernel?

I'm pretty sure if you have the old Knox free bootloader and want stock kernel I think you're stuck with 4.2.x ROMs.

Talexop kernel is pretty close to stock and is what comes with Goldeneye. I think it's pretty solid.

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# 974202 25-Jan-2014 17:47

Oh I didn't think of that! Hmm ... that makes so much sense thanks

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# 974204 25-Jan-2014 17:53

tanivula:
joker97: does anyone know if i can use stock rooted kernel for echoe rom? and if not, which rom would be as close to stock, have no knox, and compatible with stock rooted kernel?

I'm pretty sure if you have the old Knox free bootloader and want stock kernel I think you're stuck with 4.2.x ROMs.

Talexop kernel is pretty close to stock and is what comes with Goldeneye. I think it's pretty solid.

I am now on Omeag v21 leaked Samsung KitKat (4.4 NA5), with new bootloader, stock kernel, and Knox free. Previously I was on 4.3 Omega Knox free too. I don't think you have to be stuck on 4.2.x.

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# 974209 25-Jan-2014 18:10

dpw:
tanivula:
joker97: does anyone know if i can use stock rooted kernel for echoe rom? and if not, which rom would be as close to stock, have no knox, and compatible with stock rooted kernel?

I'm pretty sure if you have the old Knox free bootloader and want stock kernel I think you're stuck with 4.2.x ROMs.

Talexop kernel is pretty close to stock and is what comes with Goldeneye. I think it's pretty solid.

I am now on Omeag v21 leaked Samsung KitKat (4.4 NA5), with new bootloader, stock kernel, and Knox free. Previously I was on 4.3 Omega Knox free too. I don't think you have to be stuck on 4.2.x.

if you are on NA5 it has knox bootloader which will trigger knox. link

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# 974213 25-Jan-2014 18:21

Is there any disadvantage with 4.3 9505 omega rom compared with kit Kat?

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# 974219 25-Jan-2014 18:28

joker97: Is there any disadvantage with 4.3 9505 omega rom compared with kit Kat?

not at all he does good Rom's and you can still use the old bootloader and stay knox free. You can go to CM11 its knox free and has app ops I believe, I'm on broodplank Kitkat and it has app ops and seems to work.

Actually all AOSP CM Roms are Knox free its only a sammy rom thing

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# 974222 25-Jan-2014 18:36

hmm i'm thinking ... in a few weeks he's gonna release a 4.4.2 without knox :D here's hoping :D (yeah then it won't be stock kernel but oh well :D)

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# 974225 25-Jan-2014 18:41

joker97: hmm i'm thinking ... in a few weeks he's gonna release a 4.4.2 without knox :D here's hoping :D (yeah then it won't be stock kernel but oh well :D)

not sure how he can release without knox bootloader as its part of TW roms now. I'll probably flash anyway as it doesn't really bother me about warranty. You should check out the AOSP roms as you can always restore backup an d go back.

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# 974227 25-Jan-2014 18:43

hang on ... i'm not worried about warranty one bit.

my main concern was i won't be able to root a knox stock rom ... but this is rooted right? as in i can update to any other further updated ROMs as i wish? i'm gonna flash if so!

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# 974243 25-Jan-2014 18:51

joker97: hang on ... i'm not worried about warranty one bit.

my main concern was i won't be able to root a knox stock rom ... but this is rooted right? as in i can update to any other further updated ROMs as i wish? i'm gonna flash if so!

yep you can just can't go back to 4.3 or less and thats my thoughts as well

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# 974255 25-Jan-2014 19:18

My phone is non knox in original form. I wonder if flashing this might break the factory reset?

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# 974272 25-Jan-2014 20:04

jeffnz:
joker97: hmm i'm thinking ... in a few weeks he's gonna release a 4.4.2 without knox :D here's hoping :D (yeah then it won't be stock kernel but oh well :D)

not sure how he can release without knox bootloader as its part of TW roms now. I'll probably flash anyway as it doesn't really bother me about warranty. You should check out the AOSP roms as you can always restore backup an d go back.

If you look through the echo ROM thread, there are some references to a 4.4 kernel that works with the old bootloader (think it's anthrax kernel). But due to some issues with XDA mods most references to it have been pulled. Perhaps to do with sources not being shared.

Also there is some discussion on xda about having some success in reverting the knox flag... so hope is still there!

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# 974306 25-Jan-2014 20:33

tanivula:
jeffnz:
joker97: hmm i'm thinking ... in a few weeks he's gonna release a 4.4.2 without knox :D here's hoping :D (yeah then it won't be stock kernel but oh well :D)

not sure how he can release without knox bootloader as its part of TW roms now. I'll probably flash anyway as it doesn't really bother me about warranty. You should check out the AOSP roms as you can always restore backup an d go back.

If you look through the echo ROM thread, there are some references to a 4.4 kernel that works with the old bootloader (think it's anthrax kernel). But due to some issues with XDA mods most references to it have been pulled. Perhaps to do with sources not being shared.

Also there is some discussion on xda about having some success in reverting the knox flag... so hope is still there!

I saw some talk last week but didn't think they were much passed rumor stage. Maybe I'll wait a bit sort of getting used to AOSP. Maybe it isn't E fuse after all

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