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  # 957940 27-Dec-2013 12:43
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I think that "the Clever ones" at Geekzone should develop this as a "Geekzone initiative" Imagine the kudos and recognition you would gain




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  # 957941 27-Dec-2013 12:51
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freitasm: What about just dial 111? It works in all phones, smart and dumb.


Yep next time you have a heart attack try dialing 111 :)

I dont know if the emergency services are set up to be able to use your phone coordinates either


I'm unsure what you want the app to do. If you can't dial 111 will you really be able to start an app and hit a button that says "I need help". If GPS isn't turned on you'd need to activate that as well.

I'm not trying to be difficult, but if you want an app written you'd really need to think through the requirements, the user interface, the motivation, who it notifies and how, etc. 111 goes straight to people that can help you. Hopefully NZ implements a solution to allow sending your location in soon, since land lines are starting to disappear pretty quickly.

 
 
 
 




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  # 958123 27-Dec-2013 22:19
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timmmay:
gnfb:
freitasm: What about just dial 111? It works in all phones, smart and dumb.


Yep next time you have a heart attack try dialing 111 :)

I dont know if the emergency services are set up to be able to use your phone coordinates either


I'm unsure what you want the app to do. If you can't dial 111 will you really be able to start an app and hit a button that says "I need help". If GPS isn't turned on you'd need to activate that as well.

I'm not trying to be difficult, but if you want an app written you'd really need to think through the requirements, the user interface, the motivation, who it notifies and how, etc. 111 goes straight to people that can help you. Hopefully NZ implements a solution to allow sending your location in soon, since land lines are starting to disappear pretty quickly.


Ok Really good question Firstly I imagine that the app I first spoke about would have been pretty well researched before being introduced. So there is the argument to just copy what they've done why try and reinvent the wheel.


But in answering your question in what I want the app to do I will go with how i use to do it in business. Work out what my dream "app" would be then give it to The clever people to get as close to as possible. This is obviously within the bounds of 1. what is possible by todays abilities 2.The confines of a budget. 3. time constraints

So dream app for me. My situation is  I live alone I am within mobile phone range and I have a internet connection. My medical concern is heart attacks. An example scenario is initially I experience discomfort may pass out then come to I am partially disoriented. I would possibly be able to press a button or similar to activate a signal . I could possibly verbalise a request like "Help" into a phone or I could tap a screen but would not be unable to undertake a specific process like ,as is mentioned find an app select etc.

The action of sending the signal would activate a flashing light outside the apartment and start a pre configured process on the mobile phone

1.This would be received by the 111 team who would then forward that information to the appropriate service . It would also open a two-way communication with the person , me in this case in distress.
1a It would also send a signal to the nearest "service" along with a gps reference This "service" could be assigned persons, doctors, trained personel, police etc that there was a person in distress

I think in Seattle they already have this service in place specifically for persons who are trained in cpr A signal is sent out to anyone in the srvice within a certain distance to the person in distress. I dont know how well that is going

 




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  # 958139 27-Dec-2013 23:13
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How about this bad boy. Bit more than an app, but could be what you are after.
Kiwi company too

http://www.vigilmonitoring.com

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  # 958168 28-Dec-2013 06:34
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What you're after isn't an app, it's a system that would require a lot of people, processes, and equipment. That's a huge effort, would probably have to be done by a government department to integrate with the existing emergency systems, and the cost would stagger you - many millions, tens of millions.

More practical would be an app that alerts a number of friends, however biometrics are probably important for you. Getting the 111 system to accept emergencies by any method other than voice would be a necessary first step for any app integration.

Vigil Monitoring sounds like they've done some great work already. Best not reinvent the wheel.



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  # 958251 28-Dec-2013 11:33
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NonprayingMantis: How about this bad boy. Bit more than an app, but could be what you are after.
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http://www.vigilmonitoring.com


Thats sounds very much on the track I have been talking about good to know




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  # 958284 28-Dec-2013 12:36
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Couple of quick questions

If a person in need of medical assist had their gps location and this information was given to "emergency services" do they have the ability of using that information? with there present tools?

and if there is a developer of apps about
A.what would it cost to re-create this app ICE alert approximately?





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  # 958286 28-Dec-2013 12:47
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gnfb: Couple of quick questions

If a person in need of medical assist had their gps location and this information was given to "emergency services" do they have the ability of using that information? with there present tools?



Yes and have been able to for years. Lots of jobs are dispatched to all 3 services via co-ordinates (land and water rescues for instance). Ambulance dispatch using gps co-ordinates.

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  # 958296 28-Dec-2013 13:42
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gnfb: I think that "the Clever ones" at Geekzone should develop this as a "Geekzone initiative" Imagine the kudos and recognition you would gain


Kudos don't pay the bills.

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  # 958402 28-Dec-2013 19:18
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There are all ready apps in use in Europe which do what I think you are after. Search the google play store for 112 and you will see a few of them. However, we would need to use one developed by Intergraph which would enable integration with our existing emergency software.

eg; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.gst.emergencycall

There are others which seem to rely on an external vendor, but not sure how they would work with NZ 111.

eg; http://www.echo112.com/



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rscole86: There are all ready apps in use in Europe which do what I think you are after. Search the google play store for 112 and you will see a few of them. However, we would need to use one developed by Intergraph which would enable integration with our existing emergency software.

eg; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.gst.emergencycall

There are others which seem to rely on an external vendor, but not sure how they would work with NZ 111.

eg; http://www.echo112.com/


Thank you all useful info
This is one of those things that the more layers you peel back the more layers there seems to be!

It started out as idea in my head but I can see if I want to do anything about it it would need a complete product development
As you point out there are integration issues and I am sure there would turf wars as well

I will put it with some other things I am throwing around and see where it lands




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