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uglyb0b
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  #1006589 16-Mar-2014 10:13
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Having root access allows you to set up ad blockers - could be why the app doesn't work. Why bother wasting bandwidth on a device that doesn't give them any ad revenue?

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  #1006590 16-Mar-2014 10:16
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nzkc: Isnt this all a bit counter productive by TV3? They want our eyes on the screen so they can push adverts to us and get paid more. And the industry wonders why so many people torrent shows and movies!


But the companies they're buying content on insist that DRM be in place before they can offer solutions such as this app. They're only doing what they're being forced to do by the content owners.


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  #1006618 16-Mar-2014 11:05
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Behodar:
freitasm: But this? Sigh...

Well anyone that's rooted their device is clearly a pirate and probably has probably stolen a couple of cars too, so it's only fair to punish them. I think that's what that infamous piracy ad was trying to teach me anyway...


No.
Just... no.
Not my fault I want to buy cheap things made craply, and then want to screenshot.
(Well, yes it is, but thats not the point.)



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  #1006683 16-Mar-2014 12:49
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uglyb0b: Having root access allows you to set up ad blockers - could be why the app doesn't work. Why bother wasting bandwidth on a device that doesn't give them any ad revenue?


I dont buy this myself. TV3 could make the adverts part of the stream so you have to watch them regardless of what ad blockers you run.

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  #1006687 16-Mar-2014 12:52
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sbiddle:
But the companies they're buying content on insist that DRM be in place before they can offer solutions such as this app. They're only doing what they're being forced to do by the content owners.


I dont doubt that happens. But as I said; "and the industry wonders why people turn to torrents".  Having a rooted device doesn't mean you have, or even can, circumvent DRM.  I'm sure it would allow you to circumvent some DRM that is in place, but it wouldn't be all.  A crude example would be that a decryption key is embedded with the app - having a rooted device doesnt mean you can get to an unencrypted version of the stream.

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  #1006694 16-Mar-2014 13:04
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And, it's utterly ineffective anyway.

Anyone who is that desperate to grab a permanent copy of a show on TV3 only needs a $50 tuner dongle plugged into their laptop - giving completely unencumbered recording in glorious 1080i.

As nzkc said, when the legal solutions are this silly, why are they surprised people turn to torrents instead? All they are accomplishing here is to irritate their userbase, cost themselves ad revenue, and make other solutions more attractive. Hardly a sensible business strategy?

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  #1006718 16-Mar-2014 14:05
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Behodar:
freitasm: But this? Sigh...

Well anyone that's rooted their device is clearly a pirate and probably has probably stolen a couple of cars too, so it's only fair to punish them. I think that's what that infamous piracy ad was trying to teach me anyway...


I'd be first to download a car! 



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  #1006734 16-Mar-2014 15:03
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nzkc:
uglyb0b: Having root access allows you to set up ad blockers - could be why the app doesn't work. Why bother wasting bandwidth on a device that doesn't give them any ad revenue?


I dont buy this myself. TV3 could make the adverts part of the stream so you have to watch them regardless of what ad blockers you run.


True, good point. It was just an idea. Sbiddle's post makes more sense, I was just throwing something out there.

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  #1006777 16-Mar-2014 17:02
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blakamin:
Behodar:
freitasm: But this? Sigh...

Well anyone that's rooted their device is clearly a pirate and probably has probably stolen a couple of cars too, so it's only fair to punish them. I think that's what that infamous piracy ad was trying to teach me anyway...


I'd be first to download a car! 


NOT RECOMMENDED FOR WORK!!!!!! 


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  #1006784 16-Mar-2014 17:13
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Athlonite: NOT RECOMMENDED FOR WORK!!!!!! 

Roll on #gigatownwhk ;)

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  #1006805 16-Mar-2014 18:10
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Athlonite:
blakamin:
Behodar:
freitasm: But this? Sigh...

Well anyone that's rooted their device is clearly a pirate and probably has probably stolen a couple of cars too, so it's only fair to punish them. I think that's what that infamous piracy ad was trying to teach me anyway...


I'd be first to download a car! 


NOT RECOMMENDED FOR WORK!!!!!! 



Nearly plssed myself laughing, thanks!!!

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  #1007101 17-Mar-2014 10:23
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Games made by Gamevil also now will not run on my device, root detected.
Off to install another xposed module ;)

PS: module is called RootCloak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647




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  #1007109 17-Mar-2014 10:34
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freitasm: Hilarious. Years ago when Windows vista came out some people made waves because HDMI and digital content used DRM technologies - at the end of day it didn't prevent anyone actually using a PC for much and pretty much everyone with HDMI today can play anything and no one is impacted by that DRM.

But this? Sigh...


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People are not impacted by DRM on HDMI?

So this is why practically no PC's have HDMI in, we can't record from skyboxes, bluray players etc unless we pay astronomical prices for HDCP strippers?
Also you've apparently never battled with incompatibilities between sky decoders and TV's that refuse to correctly negotiate HDCP, and so forcibly degrade your picture quality.
To quote Ed Felten "The main practical effect of HDCP has been to create one more way in which your electronics could fail to work properly with your TV."

HDCP and DRM in general are inherently evil technologies designed to protect a copyright monopoly and an outdated outmoded business model for content creators. They greatly inconvenience legitimate users, and pretty much NEVER deter people who are determined to not pay for content. The world would be a much better place without them. 

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