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# 143483 16-Apr-2014 13:38
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Hey guys

Just thought Id let you know that using this method 

 

http://honai-android.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/how-to-root-galaxy-s4-lte-i9505-on.html

 

 

 

I was able to successfully root my i9505 without tripping the knox flag :D

 

 

 

 

 

I used to be on an old bootloader but i decided to bite the bullet today and update it. I dont think the newer software works as well with older bootloaders especially kitkat

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  # 1026237 16-Apr-2014 14:48
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All this and rooted :D

 


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  # 1026242 16-Apr-2014 14:57
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Nice. I'm not bothering with 4.3, but it gives me hope for a rooted S4 4.4 with Touchwiz (plain Android is ugly and slower to use).

 
 
 
 




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  # 1026308 16-Apr-2014 16:16
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timmmay: Nice. I'm not bothering with 4.3, but it gives me hope for a rooted S4 4.4 with Touchwiz (plain Android is ugly and slower to use).

You can get 4.4 touchwiz roms that work with the old bootloader but it would be better to use the new one,

 

Yeah same. I much prefer samsungs way of quick settings, their SMS app, etc

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  # 1026310 16-Apr-2014 16:18
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Yabanize:
timmmay: Nice. I'm not bothering with 4.3, but it gives me hope for a rooted S4 4.4 with Touchwiz (plain Android is ugly and slower to use).

You can get 4.4 touchwiz roms that work with the old bootloader but it would be better to use the new one, Yeah same. I much prefer samsungs way of quick settings, their SMS app, etc


Why is the new bootloader better? I'd like 4.4 just for tweaks and better performance, hopefully less hangs and such, but yeah I do much prefer touchwiz to my wife's moto g which is close to stock.



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  # 1026326 16-Apr-2014 17:21
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timmmay:
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timmmay: Nice. I'm not bothering with 4.3, but it gives me hope for a rooted S4 4.4 with Touchwiz (plain Android is ugly and slower to use).

You can get 4.4 touchwiz roms that work with the old bootloader but it would be better to use the new one, Yeah same. I much prefer samsungs way of quick settings, their SMS app, etc


Why is the new bootloader better? I'd like 4.4 just for tweaks and better performance, hopefully less hangs and such, but yeah I do much prefer touchwiz to my wife's moto g which is close to stock.


Id just think it would be more optimized? but maybe im wrong. There are roms on xda with touchwiz kitkat you can use with old bootloader

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  # 1026329 16-Apr-2014 17:23
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I might get around to that over Easter - any recommendations for a trustworthy well tested ROM?

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  # 1026334 16-Apr-2014 17:35
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timmmay: I might get around to that over Easter - any recommendations for a trustworthy well tested ROM?


For a GT-I9505? 

 
 
 
 


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  # 1026338 16-Apr-2014 17:47
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ok thats great but can you use custom Roms and kernels without tripping knox or are you stuck with stock Roms




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  # 1026371 16-Apr-2014 19:04
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TimA:
timmmay: I might get around to that over Easter - any recommendations for a trustworthy well tested ROM?


For a GT-I9505? 


Yeah.

jeffnz: ok thats great but can you use custom Roms and kernels without tripping knox or are you stuck with stock Roms


Interesting question.

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  # 1026416 16-Apr-2014 19:59
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Tim I'm assuming you can with the likes of the custom kitkat that are using the new bootloader but not so with the likes of Shoman which is still on old bootloader. Actually still on shoman and its very good, battery life has never been better even with now using the Gear 2 I'm getting 1 1/2 days




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jeffnz: ok thats great but can you use custom Roms and kernels without tripping knox or are you stuck with stock Roms


Stuck with Stock ROMs, if you install a custom recovery it will trip Knox I think. It's written in the XDA thread that the OP's link references.

Best to stick with the old bootloader - the only limitation is having to use an old LTE modem (can use 4.4 GSM modem) but if you flash a new LTE modem it breaks sound I think.

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  # 1026423 16-Apr-2014 20:10
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tanivula:
jeffnz: ok thats great but can you use custom Roms and kernels without tripping knox or are you stuck with stock Roms


Stuck with Stock ROMs, if you install a custom recovery it will trip Knox I think. It's written in the XDA thread that the OP's link references.

Best to stick with the old bootloader - the only limitation is having to use an old LTE modem (can use 4.4 GSM modem) but if you flash a new LTE modem it breaks sound I think.

I haven't read thread yet but thought as much and think you are right with the Modems. Really not much use to me then but good to see the Devs are getting round all this, much to the disgust of Samsung I'm sure. Interesting o see how it all develops




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  # 1026439 16-Apr-2014 20:46
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That's the problem with custom ROMs - too many options, too many risks. That's probably why I'm still on 4.2.2, though I have good backups (nandroid etc) so the risk isn't huge unless I brick it. Though I've done heaps with my older tablet and never had a problem.



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  # 1026687 17-Apr-2014 09:59
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I want to use telecoms firmware as I know its fully optimized for their network etc

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  # 1026733 17-Apr-2014 10:39
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Yabanize: I want to use telecoms firmware as I know its fully optimized for their network etc


it would be interesting to compare phones that are on custom v Telecom stock to see difference. I've been on telecom and custom Roms since my first flashable S5630 ( I think) and never had any issues using non Telecom firmware , but that's not to say there isn't any.




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