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Topic # 148489 20-Jun-2014 17:38
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http://www.androidcentral.com/android-444-ota-rollout-begins

that would make 4.4.3. the shortest lived version ?

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  Reply # 1071428 21-Jun-2014 08:58
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It's primarily to fix the OpenSSL bug.


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  Reply # 1071432 21-Jun-2014 09:04
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They really need to break security updates away from the main release cycle,

90% of users probably won't have 4.4.4 until 2016+ due to upgrade/update cycles

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1071454 21-Jun-2014 09:46
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macuser: They really need to break security updates away from the main release cycle,

90% of users probably won't have 4.4.4 until 2016+ due to upgrade/update cycles


Yep. And they need to separate the OS from the skin and the radio. That way we could have the latest secure system while the OEMs and telcos go about their testing. Apple achieve it, although they have control of both the OS and the skin. But they also have a take it or leave it attitude to the telcos.




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  Reply # 1071481 21-Jun-2014 10:14
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Dingbatt:

Yep. And they need to separate the OS from the skin and the radio. That way we could have the latest secure system while the OEMs and telcos go about their testing. Apple achieve it, although they have control of both the OS and the skin. But they also have a take it or leave it attitude to the telcos.


and why i would never get another samsung again - or at least not get one again till that get sorted - had a S3 that i did not want to scan any q-code as there was a secure hole that could wipe your phone with q-code that tell it to and no update for over a year for it, so when i got a new phone i got a nexus so that i did get updates.

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  Reply # 1072319 23-Jun-2014 06:54
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bagheera:
Dingbatt:

Yep. And they need to separate the OS from the skin and the radio. That way we could have the latest secure system while the OEMs and telcos go about their testing. Apple achieve it, although they have control of both the OS and the skin. But they also have a take it or leave it attitude to the telcos.


and why i would never get another samsung again - or at least not get one again till that get sorted - had a S3 that i did not want to scan any q-code as there was a secure hole that could wipe your phone with q-code that tell it to and no update for over a year for it, so when i got a new phone i got a nexus so that i did get updates.


Reason why i only buy nexus range now.  If i want a different look etc i just download a launcher.


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  Reply # 1073219 24-Jun-2014 10:43
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4.4.3 may have been the shortest living version but my Nexus 5 is still on 4.4.2.

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  Reply # 1073233 24-Jun-2014 10:53
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My 1st Gen Nexus 7 got the update this morning.




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  Reply # 1073318 24-Jun-2014 11:47
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ditto my nexus 5

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  Reply # 1073327 24-Jun-2014 11:53
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Still no update for my Nexus 7. Of course, as noted above, probably will never appear on my S3.

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  Reply # 1073374 24-Jun-2014 12:37
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My wife's N7 showed that there was a new update this morning though have not had time to install it..




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  Reply # 1074322 25-Jun-2014 15:14
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Mine showed up just after 8am and I installed at lunch time

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bagheera:
Dingbatt:

Yep. And they need to separate the OS from the skin and the radio. That way we could have the latest secure system while the OEMs and telcos go about their testing. Apple achieve it, although they have control of both the OS and the skin. But they also have a take it or leave it attitude to the telcos.


and why i would never get another samsung again - or at least not get one again till that get sorted - had a S3 that i did not want to scan any q-code as there was a secure hole that could wipe your phone with q-code that tell it to and no update for over a year for it, so when i got a new phone i got a nexus so that i did get updates.


@dingbatt same old arguments again, not sure why you would compare IOS with Android as IOS is made for Apple (fullstop) Android is made for a multitude of manufacturers and phones, if you haven't got over it now its time to change phones.

@bagheera No idea why you bring Samsung into nit they certainly aren't the slowest in the market but glad you seem satisfied now.

when will people stop going on about android and understand the differences between OS's and not expect them to be all the same in distribution, we get the same old tired arguments and justifications for not buying this or that when none of this is new. The vast majority of Android users couldn't care less about updates nor been worried by so called threats that don't eventuate.






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  Reply # 1074435 25-Jun-2014 17:34
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Received this morning, anyone seen a changelog?

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  Reply # 1074456 25-Jun-2014 17:54
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@bagheera No idea why you bring Samsung into nit they certainly aren't the slowest in the market but glad you seem satisfied now.

when will people stop going on about android and understand the differences between OS's and not expect them to be all the same in distribution, we get the same old tired arguments and justifications for not buying this or that when none of this is new. The vast majority of Android users couldn't care less about updates nor been worried by so called threats that don't eventuate.


why Samsung? because i had one - not had any other manufacturer other then nexus 4 so could not comment on them - but if worst, they should stop selling phones. And yes most people do not care about fixes, but will care if there is a security hole and they lose money with there on-line banking app etc - then it would be why was this not fix!!


if a phone manufacturer changes a phone OS in a way which stop the phone from getting security update when google fixes a security issue, then phone manufacturer should roll out a fix to their phone very quickly after google not some 1 - 2 year maybe, never time. phone manufacturer need to do their part in security too - i would not buy a PC that had software that stop MS update installing, and no one would if they new that was the case, so why is it different for phones?

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