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  Reply # 1397313 30-Sep-2015 13:05
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Just looking at some US sites on the Nexus  6P.  The 32gig model there sells for US$499  = NZ$ 785 + GST  = $818.  That's a lot different from the $1099  quoted in press releases here.  Good old kiwi tax again..




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  Reply # 1397315 30-Sep-2015 13:09
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k14: Why does it have to be so confusing haha!!

So how do you know if your normal cell sites run on band 3/7 or 28?? I'm on 2degrees btw.


Around cities etc it is mainly 3/7 bands, 28 is longer range so more out in the country etc.

You will be fine using it on 2 degrees as 2g/3g etc is covered by the phone.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1397316 30-Sep-2015 13:09
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k14: Why does it have to be so confusing haha!!

So how do you know if your normal cell sites run on band 3/7 or 28?? I'm on 2degrees btw.

 

You don't usually.  Some phones you can get into network diags and it'll tell you what LTE band you're connected to (I know this is possible on my Nexus 6)
You can probably also figure it out if you've got a coverage map.  But even then with overlapping you can't know for sure.

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What isn't clear to me is, what happens if the N5X is on Vodafone and in a Band 28 area. No LTE or partial coverage?



How is it confusing? If the phone can't support the band, it'll act as if it can't support that band.  i.e try and connect on other freqenices if available. If you happened to be in an area that ONLY had LTE700 coverage, you'd get no signal.

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  Reply # 1397318 30-Sep-2015 13:10
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old3eyes: Just looking at some US sites on the Nexus  6P.  The 32gig model there sells for US$499  = NZ$ 785 + GST  = $818.  That's a lot different from the $1099  quoted in press releases here.  Good old kiwi tax again..


Yes good old kiwi tax again, but remember that kiwi tax is to cover things like the CGA and we are also a very small country by head count, that drives up the prices.



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  Reply # 1397320 30-Sep-2015 13:12
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muppet:
k14: Why does it have to be so confusing haha!!

So how do you know if your normal cell sites run on band 3/7 or 28?? I'm on 2degrees btw.
You don't usually.  Some phones you can get into network diags and it'll tell you what LTE band you're connected to (I know this is possible on my Nexus 6)
You can probably also figure it out if you've got a coverage map.  But even then with overlapping you can't know for sure.

lchiu7:

What isn't clear to me is, what happens if the N5X is on Vodafone and in a Band 28 area. No LTE or partial coverage?



How is it confusing? If the phone can't support the band, it'll act as if it can't support that band.  i.e try and connect on other freqenices if available. If you happened to be in an area that ONLY had LTE700 coverage, you'd get no signal.


The confusing part is that it covers only 1/2 the band.  Most people know about the LTE bands NZ has but it gets hard when they split the band and then say "band 28*" * = only the lower 1/2 of the band 700 - 723.

I bet if you called vodafone or 2 degrees the CSR would say "it's listed as band 28 so will work" but it won't.



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  Reply # 1397336 30-Sep-2015 13:17
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mrtoken: The confusing part is that it covers only 1/2 the band.  Most people know about the LTE bands NZ has but it gets hard when they split the band and then say "band 28*" * = only the lower 1/2 of the band 700 - 723.

I bet if you called vodafone or 2 degrees the CSR would say "it's listed as band 28 so will work" but it won't.


But we're not talking about that situation. We're talking about what we know, which is that the phone doesn't support VFNZ's Band 28.  I don't disagree it will cause a lot of confusion, it will.  But given that WE in this discussion know it doesn't support it, I can't what's confusing about it.



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  Reply # 1397338 30-Sep-2015 13:19
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old3eyes: US$499  = NZ$ 785 + GST  = $818.  That's a lot different from the $1099


$785 + GST (15%) is $902.75. Not sure where you got $818 from




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  Reply # 1397360 30-Sep-2015 13:54
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No mention in the NZ Google Store about the Nexus Protect insurance option. Having killed my Nexus 5 screen early in it's life, then ditching the phone as it was too expensive to repair ...hopefully the newly announced insurance scheme will reach these shores.

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  Reply # 1397365 30-Sep-2015 14:12
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old3eyes: US$499  = NZ$ 785 + GST  = $818.  That's a lot different from the $1099


$785 + GST (15%) is $902.75. Not sure where you got $818 from


Your correct.  I must have transposed something  money-mouth




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  Reply # 1397368 30-Sep-2015 14:29
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Disappointed at the price of N5X.  Nexus devices have steadily got more expensive with each release.

I'll probably grab it in a year when the price has dropped assuming the reviews are good.

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  Reply # 1397373 30-Sep-2015 14:36
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BigMal: Disappointed at the price of N5X.  Nexus devices have steadily got more expensive with each release.

I'll probably grab it in a year when the price has dropped assuming the reviews are good.


That's because they moved from getting a high quality device at a low cost to a lot of people - to delivering what they consider the flagship android experience.



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  Reply # 1397382 30-Sep-2015 14:52
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BigMal: Disappointed at the price of N5X.  Nexus devices have steadily got more expensive with each release.

I'll probably grab it in a year when the price has dropped assuming the reviews are good.


Just remember, it's our falling exchange rate that is increasing the price - nothing to do with Google.

Google have held their release price for the 5X very close to the 2013 Nexus 5 release, ie:

Nexus 5. 2013. Launch price = $349

Nexus 5X. 2015. Launch price = $379


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  Reply # 1397385 30-Sep-2015 14:55
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BigMal: Disappointed at the price of N5X.  Nexus devices have steadily got more expensive with each release.

I'll probably grab it in a year when the price has dropped assuming the reviews are good.


That's because they moved from getting a high quality device at a low cost to a lot of people - to delivering what they consider the flagship android experience.




They haven't moved from high quality at a low cost. It's still there and it's called the Nexus 5X which has lauched very close in price to the Nexus 5.

And credit to Google, they have gone one step further with this release and given punters the option of a higher end flagship device as well. The best of both worlds.

I guess you will never please all of the punters all of the time (-;

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  Reply # 1397389 30-Sep-2015 15:05
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BigMal: Disappointed at the price of N5X.  Nexus devices have steadily got more expensive with each release.

I'll probably grab it in a year when the price has dropped assuming the reviews are good.


Just remember, it's our falling exchange rate that is increasing the price - nothing to do with Google.

Google have held their release price for the 5X very close to the 2013 Nexus 5 release, ie:

Nexus 5. 2013. Launch price = $349

Nexus 5X. 2015. Launch price = $379



The cheapest Nexus model has gotten progressively more expensive.

An 8GB Nexus 4 cost $299

A 16GB Nexus 5 cost $349

A 16GB Nexus 5X cost $379

That is entirely to do with Google.  The falling exchange rate just compounds the problem.

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  Reply # 1397396 30-Sep-2015 15:15
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BigMal:
dafman:
BigMal: Disappointed at the price of N5X.  Nexus devices have steadily got more expensive with each release.

I'll probably grab it in a year when the price has dropped assuming the reviews are good.


Just remember, it's our falling exchange rate that is increasing the price - nothing to do with Google.

Google have held their release price for the 5X very close to the 2013 Nexus 5 release, ie:

Nexus 5. 2013. Launch price = $349

Nexus 5X. 2015. Launch price = $379



The cheapest Nexus model has gotten progressively more expensive.

An 8GB Nexus 4 cost $299

A 16GB Nexus 5 cost $349

A 16GB Nexus 5X cost $379

That is entirely to do with Google.  The falling exchange rate just compounds the problem.


Like with like: 

A 2012 16GB Nexus 4 $349 at launch

A 2013 16GB Nexus 5 $349 at launch

A 2015 16GB Nexus 5X $379 at launch



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