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  Reply # 1414281 27-Oct-2015 07:04
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freitasm: I am closing this now so I have time to enter the last few ones received overnight.

Thanks everyone!


Thanks to Geekzone, Huawei + 2Degrees :)



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  Reply # 1414288 27-Oct-2015 07:32
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And we closed at 125 names in the list.

Now you wait for your emails from 2degrees with instructions.






 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 1414298 27-Oct-2015 07:49
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I know it's not everyone's cup of tea but... If you are on Facebook and go and Like our Geekzone page then we might get over the 1,000 likes with the number of people we have here in the list...




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  Reply # 1414336 27-Oct-2015 08:32
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freitasm: And we closed at 125 names in the list.

Now you wait for your emails from 2degrees with instructions.




Can we get a breakdown of those orders?







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  Reply # 1414355 27-Oct-2015 08:57
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I will have a look later. Work day in the way now.






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  Reply # 1414374 27-Oct-2015 09:35
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Something that I was a bit confused about, was when will the handsets be sent out?

On the first post it says 

 

  • "Geekzone members also get priority access to these handsets before launch"
Which to me implies we will get before Nov 2nd

However then it says

"For those who buy through the on-line store using the provided link or sign up by 12.00pm on Nov 1st, their handset will ship out on November 2nd . Delivery may take up to 3 days for South Island addresses."

To me its saying we will get before the official release date, then its saying we will get on release date. Or do we have to go in store to pay for the phones to get before Nov 2nd as it says those who buy through the "on-line store...handset will ship out on Nov 2nd"

Im not bothered either way, just thought I would ask :)

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  Reply # 1414526 27-Oct-2015 11:46
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Finch: Something that I was a bit confused about, was when will the handsets be sent out?

On the first post it says 

 

  • "Geekzone members also get priority access to these handsets before launch"
Which to me implies we will get before Nov 2nd

However then it says

"For those who buy through the on-line store using the provided link or sign up by 12.00pm on Nov 1st, their handset will ship out on November 2nd . Delivery may take up to 3 days for South Island addresses."

To me its saying we will get before the official release date, then its saying we will get on release date. Or do we have to go in store to pay for the phones to get before Nov 2nd as it says those who buy through the "on-line store...handset will ship out on Nov 2nd"

Im not bothered either way, just thought I would ask :)


I assume it is before the phone is available in-stores.





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  Reply # 1414593 27-Oct-2015 12:44
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2degreesCare:

Hi Zemien

Yes you are correct, the Huawei Nexus 6P through 2degrees is unlocked and running stock Android with no modifications at all.

Cheers
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My question is bit off topic to the Huawei/2Degrees offer, however it's related to Nexus 6P and because am getting the handset from 2degrees through this offer, I thought it will be better to ask @2degreesCare here.

I am not sure if you've heard about a new piece of hardware QFuse in Nexus 6P.

Qfuse is a small switch type hardware in Nexus 6P that trips off if the bootloader is unlocked. A tripped off Qfuse does not affect the functioning or operation of the device, however the manufacturer/repair center can easily find out the bootloader was unlocked some time by checking the status of Qfuse.

You can flash the factory image and restore the locked bootloader back, however once the Qfuse is tripped it cannot be reverted back to it's original position.

Now my question is related to the warranty of the hardware, if I unlock the bootloader today and if something goes wrong with the hardware after 6-7 months, is my warrant void?

A Google Store representative has confirmed that the status of the Qfuse does not matter. As long as the user reflash the factory image (which restores the locked bootloader and original baseband) the warrant is not void. They do not validate the status of Qfuse to check if warranty is void or not. The representative mentioned.... unlocking/locking the bootloader is something to do with software and warranty is mainly to do with hardware. The user has to make sure factory image is reflashed as the first part of troubleshooting. And if the hardware issue is still not resolved after factory image flashing then they will repair/replace the handset under the warranty term.

Google store understands the fact that unlocking the bootloader can increase the possibilities of destroying the handset, however it's not always the case. For eg, if the volume rocker button came off from the device, it has nothing to do with bootloader. It is an hardware issue. Similarly, they ask the user to reflash the factory image to see if the issue is user generated or a hardware problem. If the issue still persist on factory image then they will repair the handset. However, this is applicable only if the device is purchased through Google Store.

I want to know if it's the same case if we purchase the handset from 2degrees? Will 2degrees repair the handset for hardware issues as long as the bootloader is locked and baseband are as per the factory image... or will you check the status of Qfuse to validate the warranty term?


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  Reply # 1414685 27-Oct-2015 14:15
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Hi all

Very exciting news that our orders have been sent away!

in the interests of my poor gmail which is currently being checked every 5 minutes or so, do we have any idea when they may begin sending emails out? I realise I sound like a crazy obsessive but it would be great to have a rough timeframe so we can all relax and wait a couple of days if required! laughing

Also, if you do get an email from 2D, let us know if you feel like ramping up the anticipation....

again, Thanks Geekzone, Huawei and 2Degrees for putting this together!

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  Reply # 1414691 27-Oct-2015 14:28
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I get the feeling that I am not the only one with burning anticipation.




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  Reply # 1414713 27-Oct-2015 14:49
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@netsujit Google is effectively the manufacturer here and as such they provide the warranty, not 2degrees, so you'll be fine to unlock as long as you re-stock before returning for warranty repair.

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  Reply # 1414765 27-Oct-2015 15:19
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ramboky: @netsujit Google is effectively the manufacturer here and as such they provide the warranty, not 2degrees, so you'll be fine to unlock as long as you re-stock before returning for warranty repair.


Naah, that's not the case.

Nexus 6P is manufactured by Huawei and the manufacturer's warranty is provided by Huawei. Google is the OS/Software provider and the main marketer and global supplier for the device. With Nexus devices, you have the assurance that all android updates will be first released to Nexus family. However, for hardware repairs they have to rely on either Huawei or a contracted repair company that has been authorized/certified by Huawei (and Google as well).

However, one thing you have to keep in mind is different retailers have different SOP (Standard operation procedure) and how they treat your case/issue depends on their SOP. For eg, if you flash a custom rom and down the line if there is a hardware failure, Google will ask you to flash factory image and see if issue has gone or not. If not, they will repair the device as long as it was purchased from them. Now if you purchase the handset from 2degrees and inform them that you were using a custom ROM, they will straightforward advise you the warranty is void as per their term. Again, it all depends on a case to case basis.

Repair charges, restocking fees, delivery and courier charges, replacement terms, etc depends on the SOP of your retailer on top of your manufacturer's warranty terms.

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  Reply # 1414779 27-Oct-2015 15:28
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Further to my original query above, with regards to Qfuse, unlocked bootloader and warranty, I was able to contact Google, 2degrees and Huawei and here are my findings:

Google Product Team has advised unlocking the bootloader does not trip the Qfuse. They said unlocking/locking the bootloader has no effect on Qfuse. Google will repair the handset for any hardware issues under the warranty term as long as the user reflash the factory image and restores the locked bootloader.

Huawei, on the other hand, did not mention anything about Qfuse but they said if for some reason they find out the bootloader is/was unlocked then the warranty is void. They told me if I am planning to unlock the bootloader then it's better to buy the device from Google Store as their standard procedures are different from Huawei.

Conclusion:
If you are planning to explore Nexus 6P to it's full capacity (which is what it is made for) by unlocking the bootloader then order through Google Store.
If you want to enjoy the phone as it is (how it was made, smooth, powerful and safe) then buy through Huawei or 2Degrees.

PS: I emailed 2degrees support and they advised unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty. However when I contacted @2degreesCare at Geekzone (relating to unlocking and locking the bootloader), he told they will check with Huawei and respond to my query once they have an update.

For me, I'll be still buying the handset directly from 2degrees, using this special Geekzone offer. I'll be also unlocking the bootloader to try out different ROMS and modifcations to stock android. I've owned few nexus devices and never experienced any hardware failure and hence am assuming paying extra money to Google Store for better warranty cover is not worth. Like everyone else, am eagerly waiting for 2degrees to send the email so that I can place the order asap.

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  Reply # 1414800 27-Oct-2015 15:47
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My understanding was that Google would front the warranty process, but I may well be wrong. Either way, 2degrees cannot change the terms of the manufacturers warranty, it's a warranty between you and the manufacturer, it has nothing to do with the store you bought it from. If retailers could change the terms of manufacturer warranties it would be exceedingly difficult for the consumer to know and understand their rights. 

You're definitely getting mixed messages there and some of them contradict what I've seen elsewhere, but ultimately the Consumers Guarantee Act should cover you in the case of a hardware fault, regardless of whether you have unlocked the bootloader.

I've owned multiple Nexuses since the Nexus One and on the two occasions I needed a warranty claim I've had no issues, despite all my devices being unlocked and rooted. 

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  Reply # 1414920 27-Oct-2015 17:11
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ramboky: My understanding was that Google would front the warranty process, but I may well be wrong. Either way, 2degrees cannot change the terms of the manufacturers warranty, it's a warranty between you and the manufacturer, it has nothing to do with the store you bought it from. If retailers could change the terms of manufacturer warranties it would be exceedingly difficult for the consumer to know and understand their rights. 

You're definitely getting mixed messages there and some of them contradict what I've seen elsewhere, but ultimately the Consumers Guarantee Act should cover you in the case of a hardware fault, regardless of whether you have unlocked the bootloader.

I've owned multiple Nexuses since the Nexus One and on the two occasions I needed a warranty claim I've had no issues, despite all my devices being unlocked and rooted. 


True... I agree 2degrees cannot change the manufacturer's warranty. And am pretty sure 2degrees will respect and process warranty cases as per Huawei's manufacturer warranty terms.

And as per Huawei representative, warranty is no longer applicable if I unlock the bootloader.

But google representative advised... warranty will be applicable as long as I am able to flash the factory image and restore locked bootloader.

You may be right... am getting mixed messages from different sources.

But as I said in my previous post... I no longer worry about the warranty. I've hardly experienced any hardware failure with Nexus devices and never made any warranty claims. Keeping that in mind, paying full price to Google Store is certainly not worth. The 10% discount by 2degrees/Huawei/Geekzone is an amazing offer and it cannot be missed.



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