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  Reply # 1465884 8-Jan-2016 13:25
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gzt:
Even in local market it is very likely my next phone will be a Nexus because better faster upgrade and update support than Motorola. Yeah Nexus way overpriced forever but it is ongoing support contract kind of I am paying for really.


can you explain that a little for me, im not up with the play on this. is that due to nexus being google?

there are 2 nexys manufacturers right? LG and....

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  Reply # 1465891 8-Jan-2016 13:28
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Nexus phones receive Android upgrades first - they come direct from Google.

however there are limits. I believe it is 2-3 years per device.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 1465893 8-Jan-2016 13:30
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oxnsox:
You need to look a little deeper at these comparisons.


that is my point. if scientifically you cant see passed 300ppi or whatever it is and screen brightness you are use to being on low and you dont play games or watch videos, a screen in REALLY non important, so again whats flagship to one person might be different to me. a good keyboard, good wifi, a usable browser for occasional google, call quality and above all else good battery is whats most important for me. and again, i get thats not what some multimedia sorts are after.

i get 4 days from my windows phones for this very reason. and reasonable battery from the android i have, the iphones i just dont use, they make nice paper weights.



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  Reply # 1465895 8-Jan-2016 13:31
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wasabi2k: Nexus phones receive Android upgrades first - they come direct from Google.

however there are limits. I believe it is 2-3 years per device.


so a good question for the asian market phones would be, which has the best international UI support?

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  Reply # 1465901 8-Jan-2016 13:37
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TeaLeaf: yeah ive looked at the redmi 3, i believe if the specs on this phone are real, its better suited to me. time will tell if its hot air or not.

truth be told its not a phone for me hence why local warranty was an issue, but ive convinced the user at the price being paid its worth the risk.

by the way which shop did you end up using for your redmi? its under the $400 so is gst free?


$140 US so about $210 NZ; bought it from the Aliexpress store recommended on the Chinese Androids thread here on GZ - Goldway. It didn't come flashed with the international ROM, but they sent me links to it; I'm just struggling to get it updated from that point forward!

If interested in a Chinese-sourced phone do read that thread thoroughly as there's a lot of good information there.



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  Reply # 1465906 8-Jan-2016 13:43
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cheers for that. i will be taking a punt on one of them. watching the p8000 review on android authority, they basically said great specs but too many issues, so my hopes for the Power have faded a little. time will tell.

im actually still interested in the zenfone 2, i know its a lot of money for specs similar to asian market phones, but i just love asus, i think its brand loyalty from never being let down coming through.

you bought from alliexpress yet someone on this thread bagged it, hard to know whats the real deal with etailers.

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  Reply # 1465911 8-Jan-2016 13:56
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TeaLeaf: cheers for that. i will be taking a punt on one of them. watching the p8000 review on android authority, they basically said great specs but too many issues, so my hopes for the Power have faded a little. time will tell.

im actually still interested in the zenfone 2, i know its a lot of money for specs similar to asian market phones, but i just love asus, i think its brand loyalty from never being let down coming through.

you bought from alliexpress yet someone on this thread bagged it, hard to know whats the real deal with etailers.


As it happens it came down to a choice for me between the Zenfone 2 and the Redmi Note 2; the latter won the day as it was more reasonably priced and also thinner (the Zenfone's a bit porky in comparison). I also found it tricky to select a specific Zenfone 2 model, given there are so many variations - and it's hard to compare those available in NZ versus from o/s.

The bagging of AliExpress from others here was, in my view, more just their belief that the products of a company that elects to sell their products via such sites are poor quality, rather than bagging everything on AliExpress per se. But this was the point I made in response to these posts - yep, there's a lot of cr@p out there, so do your homework and don't jump into buying something until enough other people have bought and tested it out before you!

I don't think the Redmi Note 3 is that much more than the 2, and that's a bit thinner and with a fingerprint scanner (plus metal body perhaps?) - it came out about a week after I ordered the 2; I'd have gone with that if I'd had the opportunity...



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  Reply # 1465912 8-Jan-2016 14:01
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what i like about the zenfone 2 is you can keep work and personal data, ie messages emails etc seperate and locked. thats a biggy for the person as they are allowed to use personal phone for work and are sick of carrying a second windows phone around. im not quite sure how that feature works though. or if there is something similar on the redmi note.

i think its called snapview

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  Reply # 1466263 8-Jan-2016 22:35
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TeaLeaf: Besides the specs of this beast http://ulefone.com/products/power/spec.html

I think its also very attractive.

A couple of features Im waiting on a review before ordering are:

The sony f1.8 Camera, I want to see how it performs in low light, its the sony imx214 13mp f1.8.
If the 4 days normal use or 63 hours talk time is for real, considering its a Sony 6050mAh battery I tend to believe it. Unlike battery extenders like the nolemon you arent left with a brick of a phone.
The quick charge system, sounds good but I want proof.

The downsides;
its not telecom compatible, Ill swap to vodafone if I have to.
its not local unless one of the parallel importers jump onboard, which is quite likely

Aside from that, 3GB Ram, Octa Core, Decent GPU, 1080p screen, finger print scanner, metal body, quick charge, MM6.0 all sound like flagship features at a measily $180 USD.

Im interested to see if they develop a US/International market/version like the Asus and meizu m2 note.

http://ulefone.com/products/power/features.html



It seems to be compatible enough with Telecom. It has GSM covered....and the LTE frequencies are good to go. Missing WCDMA 850MHz likely won't be a showstopper as long as GSM allows for the calls and LTE handles the data. OK....out in the countryside you might be struggling for data....but not phone. (I think I have this right). 




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  Reply # 1466280 8-Jan-2016 23:15
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Spark/Skinny DOES NOT USE GSM. Device MUST have WCDMA(3G) 850MHz if you want to use voice nationwide. Fullstop. Stop spreading misinformation.

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  Reply # 1466289 9-Jan-2016 00:47
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Well it would be good if there were officlal pages somewhere with descriptive information and interpretation.

I doubt there is any deliberate misinformation. Why would there be?

I think it is more a lack of.

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  Reply # 1466334 9-Jan-2016 08:14
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https://www.spark.co.nz/help/mobile-data/getstarted/using-another-networks-mobile-on-the-spark-network/


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  Reply # 1466339 9-Jan-2016 08:28
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I don't see a lot of innovation with this phone, however there seems to be a lot of copying. It looks like the maker really likes Huawei phones enough so to copy them.




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TeaLeaf: Besides the specs of this beast http://ulefone.com/products/power/spec.html

I think its also very attractive.

A couple of features Im waiting on a review before ordering are:

The sony f1.8 Camera, I want to see how it performs in low light, its the sony imx214 13mp f1.8.
If the 4 days normal use or 63 hours talk time is for real, considering its a Sony 6050mAh battery I tend to believe it. Unlike battery extenders like the nolemon you arent left with a brick of a phone.
The quick charge system, sounds good but I want proof.

The downsides;
its not telecom compatible, Ill swap to vodafone if I have to.
its not local unless one of the parallel importers jump onboard, which is quite likely

Aside from that, 3GB Ram, Octa Core, Decent GPU, 1080p screen, finger print scanner, metal body, quick charge, MM6.0 all sound like flagship features at a measily $180 USD.

Im interested to see if they develop a US/International market/version like the Asus and meizu m2 note.

http://ulefone.com/products/power/features.html



It seems to be compatible enough with Telecom. It has GSM covered....and the LTE frequencies are good to go. Missing WCDMA 850MHz likely won't be a showstopper as long as GSM allows for the calls and LTE handles the data. OK....out in the countryside you might be struggling for data....but not phone. (I think I have this right). 


Missing WCDMA 850Mhz is a major show stopper

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  Reply # 1466352 9-Jan-2016 09:26
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Missing LTE band 28 is becoming a major show stopper too!





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