Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


47 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 6


Topic # 192225 2-Mar-2016 13:00
Send private message

Right so I love updating my phone, especially my Samsung stuff, but after the news of the s7/edge I just don't think there is enough happening to make me interested.

 

So they take away my fav feature IR Blaster! (kids always lose the remote !daily use!)

 

It has water proofing, (don't ever get my phone wet)

 

Faster processor/graphics, (The S6 seems pretty fast, games seem pretty good already)

 

Bigger battery (great to have this, does make the phone heaver than the S6 though!)

 

Camera (Now everyone talks about this like they take photos at night time! not interested) 

 

Screen is the same tech, just an amoled feature of always on. 

 

Water cooling! (that's just cool bragging rights!)

 

SD card (I do like this, but not needed when you have the 64GB S6 variety)

 

 

 

The LG G5 how ever seems a pretty good innovative device, it kinda appeals to my geek side more that this S7 can.

 

Is the S7 trying to be like a certian Apple's prodigy i.e not innovative (just safe) or is the smart phone world running out of ideas and at its peak?

 

 


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
2165 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 357


  Reply # 1504897 2-Mar-2016 13:39
2 people support this post
Send private message

These threads come up every year around this time :P

 

No, you don't need an S7, yes lots of other people do

 

Each new model is ever only an incremental improvement on previous, the camera and shiny back would have me sold if it weren't for my utter contempt for touchwizz 


613 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 79

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1504898 2-Mar-2016 13:41
Send private message

> Is the S7 trying to be like a certian Apple's prodigy i.e not innovative (just safe) or 

 

Samsung has always been that way though, or at least it has been for a while now. They lost their way after the S3, and with the S6, it became clear they were focusing more on the design, brand and marketing, just like Apple. I mean, the S6 was a downgrade from the S5 in terms of features. The S7 only bought back a couple of those missing features (microSD and waterproofing), but in the process it lost one more feature (IR Blaster). Even the Note series has been steadily seeing the decline of features - first they got rid of the FM Radio, then the IR Blaster, removable battery and SD Card. Wonder what they'll get rid of next?

> is the smart phone world running out of ideas and at its peak?

I think it's just Samsung (and maybe HTC and Sony too). But as you've already mentioned, the G5 was pretty innovative, but so was the V10. But LG has been constantly trying out new things though - from the back buttons since the G2, the first QHD display and laser autofocus with the G3, the G Flex etc.

 


There's also the Nextbit Robin - which is not only a refreshing change in design, but also innovative with it's smart storage solution (although its quite basic at the moment). Nextbit has also promised fast and regular updates, in addition to actively supporting the developer/modder community, and explicitly stating that rooting won't void the warranty. That, IMHO is another huge differentiation factor compared to other companies like Samsung, who are aiming to lock down your device even more and make it more Apple-like.

OnePlus has the option of both physical and on-screen keys. Xiaomi is coming out with phones like the Mi5 which has real flagship specs in a small form-factor. Huawei has some interesting models lined up too, with dual rear cameras and stuff.

So there is innovation taking place - you just have to look beyond the major players and give the underdogs a chance.


2505 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 932

Subscriber

  Reply # 1504985 2-Mar-2016 14:33
One person supports this post
Send private message

Darwall:

 

Is the S7 trying to be like a certian Apple's prodigy i.e not innovative (just safe) or is the smart phone world running out of ideas and at its peak?

 

 

Given the S6 was, in my opinion, a step backward (in that it lost features the S5 offered, such as the Waterproofing and SD card that have made a return in the S7), I'd argue the S7 is a return to form after the so-so S6.

 

I'll be upgrading my S5 to the S7 for sure. Never entertained the idea of upgrading to the S6, though. Having gone S2 -> S3 -> S4 -> S5, skipping the 6 was, from my perspective, a big step (or non-step, as the case may be).





Windows 7 x64 // i5-3570K // 16GB DDR3-1600 // GTX660Ti 2GB // Samsung 830 120GB SSD // OCZ Agility4 120GB SSD // Samsung U28D590D @ 3840x2160 & Asus PB278Q @ 2560x1440
Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900I w/Spark

1779 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 118


  Reply # 1505017 2-Mar-2016 15:43
Send private message

Yeah, I have had an S3,4,5,6 and will soon have a S7 (Edge this time around for the bigger battery). I've also had other brands phones over the years but like the Samsung styling. For me it's an incremental thing. I want what the S7 has (missed waterproofing and SD card support in the S6) and am prepared to pay for it. The camera will make a difference in any lighting, not just low light, and that matters to me. 


5795 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1729

Trusted

  Reply # 1505018 2-Mar-2016 15:46
Send private message

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=77&topicid=192216

 

 

 

Anyone got a phone they want to trade for my S6 Edge plus?

 

The biggest grabber for me with the S7 is the water proofing. SD card slot i wouldnt even use.





Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.




47 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 6


  Reply # 1505041 2-Mar-2016 16:04
2 people support this post
Send private message

What about the fact that it doesn't have USB type C? Just about every major manufacture are going this way with their flagship phone.

 

I guess the reasons why , (they would have to redesign the Gear VR's and the technology it's too new for them?)

 

 

 

Just another feature lacking that's all. 


13990 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2493

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1505051 2-Mar-2016 16:13
2 people support this post
Send private message

There's not enough in the S7 for me to trade up from the S4. The S4 is fast enough (I don't play games), reliable, I don't need waterproof or huge amounts of memory, and battery life on the original battery is still great. 





AWS Certified Solution Architect Professional, Sysop Administrator Associate, and Developer Associate
TOGAF certified enterprise architect
Professional photographer


5795 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1729

Trusted

  Reply # 1505054 2-Mar-2016 16:17
One person supports this post
Send private message

timmmay:

 

There's not enough in the S7 for me to trade up from the S4. The S4 is fast enough (I don't play games), reliable, I don't need waterproof or huge amounts of memory, and battery life on the original battery is still great. 

 

 

 

 

My S4 i had for 2 years, dropped once a week, Got wet all the time. (pretty sure it is waterproof)
Never had a problem. No cracked screen. No scratches. My mate has it now and it still works

 

Probably the best phone i ever had after i flashed google play edition 5.0.1.





Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.


1779 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 118


  Reply # 1505059 2-Mar-2016 16:18
2 people support this post
Send private message

I don't care for USB type C yet as I have nothing else that uses it, and in a phone I don't see any benefits for my personal use case. 


3571 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 148

Trusted

  Reply # 1505071 2-Mar-2016 16:43
One person supports this post
Send private message

Disrespective:

 

I don't care for USB type C yet as I have nothing else that uses it, and in a phone I don't see any benefits for my personal use case. 

 

 

 

 

Ditto. Plus, genuine USB type-C is price way over the top at the moment. Seriously, $50+ for a charger and cable is insane. Quite happy to keep using good old micro USB for another year or so.


2314 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1081

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1505099 2-Mar-2016 17:56
Send private message

I lost interest in Samsung after the stylistic S3. The plastic and the dimpled backs of the S4 and S5 were a big turn off and touchwiz was bloating with each iteration. They fixed the non-premium hardware issue with the S6 - but at the price of losing waterproofing, battery and SD card. This alienated a lot of users. they should have taken note from Apple - they only ever add features with each iteration, never take them away.

 

So now the S7. Samsung have listened and added back the waterproofing, the SD card and upped the battery. They have also refined the style of the S6 and made it even better (eg. the curved back of the S7 is being praised for one-handed comfort).

 

And the camera - it's not so much the low light ability that appeals to me - it's the near instant auto focus that I am really looking forward to.

 

Yes, there's still touchwiz - but they have flattened it a little. I guess you can't have everything you want.

 

And no USB C. I would have liked it, but as I am not transferring files to and from the phone, I guess micro USB charges just as well as USB C, with the added plus that they have added quick charge to wireless as well as wired. That's a biggie for me.

 

So, yes, well done Sammy. This will be my next phone.


303 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 57

Subscriber

  Reply # 1505244 2-Mar-2016 21:50
Send private message

timmmay:

 

There's not enough in the S7 for me to trade up from the S4. The S4 is fast enough (I don't play games), reliable, I don't need waterproof or huge amounts of memory, and battery life on the original battery is still great. 

 

 

Agree absolutely, the S4 is just fine, does everything I want.  But I'll admit that the strapline on my texts is "Sent from my Galaxy S8".





gml


17281 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4940

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1505288 2-Mar-2016 23:32
One person supports this post
Send private message

Darwall:

 

Right so I love updating my phone, especially my Samsung stuff, but after the news of the s7/edge I just don't think there is enough happening to make me interested.

 

So they take away my fav feature IR Blaster! (kids always lose the remote !daily use!)

 

It has water proofing, (don't ever get my phone wet)

 

Faster processor/graphics, (The S6 seems pretty fast, games seem pretty good already)

 

Bigger battery (great to have this, does make the phone heaver than the S6 though!)

 

Camera (Now everyone talks about this like they take photos at night time! not interested) 

 

Screen is the same tech, just an amoled feature of always on. 

 

Water cooling! (that's just cool bragging rights!)

 

SD card (I do like this, but not needed when you have the 64GB S6 variety)

 

 

 

The LG G5 how ever seems a pretty good innovative device, it kinda appeals to my geek side more that this S7 can.

 

Is the S7 trying to be like a certian Apple's prodigy i.e not innovative (just safe) or is the smart phone world running out of ideas and at its peak?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems like you have thought it all out and understand the differences just fine. If it doesn't provide any value, don't upgrade. Not sure the purpose of the thread, are you wanting us to talk you into spending money you don't see the value in spending, for any particular reason? :) 

 

 


913 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 183


  Reply # 1505289 2-Mar-2016 23:36
Send private message

Darwall:

 

What about the fact that it doesn't have USB type C? Just about every major manufacture are going this way with their flagship phone.

 

I guess the reasons why , (they would have to redesign the Gear VR's and the technology it's too new for them?)

 

 

 

Just another feature lacking that's all. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah it's pretty disappointing to say the least.


17281 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4940

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1505290 2-Mar-2016 23:39
2 people support this post
Send private message

Heh manufacturers can't win. If you don't get USB C, you complain, if you do, and your accessories aren't compatible you complain. 

 

 


 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Hawaiki Transpacific cable ready-for-service
Posted 20-Jul-2018 11:29


Microsoft Dynamics 365 Business Central launches
Posted 10-Jul-2018 10:40


Spark completes first milestone in voice platform upgrade
Posted 10-Jul-2018 09:36


Microsoft ices heated developers
Posted 6-Jul-2018 20:16


PB Technologies charged for its extended warranties and warned for bait advertising
Posted 3-Jul-2018 15:45


Almost 20,000 people claim credits from Spark
Posted 29-Jun-2018 10:40


Cove sells NZ's first insurance policy via chatbot
Posted 25-Jun-2018 10:04


N4L helping TAKA Trust bridge the digital divide for Lower Hutt students
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:08


Winners Announced for 2018 CIO Awards
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:03


Logitech Rally sets new standard for USB-connected video conference cameras
Posted 18-Jun-2018 09:27


Russell Stanners steps down as Vodafone NZ CEO
Posted 12-Jun-2018 09:13


Intergen recognised as 2018 Microsoft Country Partner of the Year for New Zealand
Posted 12-Jun-2018 08:00


Finalists Announced For Microsoft NZ Partner Awards
Posted 6-Jun-2018 15:12


Vocus Group and Vodafone announce joint venture to accelerate fibre innovation
Posted 5-Jun-2018 10:52


Kogan.com to launch Kogan Mobile in New Zealand
Posted 4-Jun-2018 14:34



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.