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  # 1626624 9-Sep-2016 16:56
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VKoil: The airline ban is going to be hard to enforce... Will it be a temporary ban until Samsung rectifies the issue or a permanent ban?


 

Why on earth would it be a permanent ban?? Once the bad-egg batteries have been sorted, the N7 will be functional no different to any other phone. 


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  # 1626654 9-Sep-2016 17:49
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It will be VERY hard to enforce.

 

For starters it takes a keen eye to tell the difference between an S7 Edge and a Note 7 - they are pretty similar on a casual glance.  And once the issue is fixed, why should Note 7's be banned any more than anything else? Apple had a laptop battery issue IIRC (some time ago) and I do not see them checking every bit of luggage just in case you have one of those that was affected.

 

 

 

 

Not so hard.

 

All they would have to do is say that <item X> is added to the list of prohibited/restricted baggage items. Might be hard to *enforce*, but it will put the risk on the person carrying it.

 

That said, it's virtually impossible that they would ban ALL of a model of a phone from a major company. More likely they might restrict pre-recall models, and maybe restrict use, rather than possession.

 

 

 

 

Nice but no - it does not 'put the risk on the person carrying it": he/she is not the only one at risk....!

 

Also, realistically, the chances of people taking much notice of such a ban are low - the best you could hope for is that the handsets would end up in checked baggage. People still try and take water through security etc - can you imagine how long the queues will get if every mobile handset has to be inspected to check make, model - and worse still, serial number?!






 
 
 
 


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  # 1626682 9-Sep-2016 19:03
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eracode:

 

VKoil: The airline ban is going to be hard to enforce... Will it be a temporary ban until Samsung rectifies the issue or a permanent ban?

 

Why on earth would it be a permanent ban?? Once the bad-egg batteries have been sorted, the N7 will be functional no different to any other phone. 

 

 

I wonder if the Note7 will ever come back with this name. By now it's something that people shouldn't/wouldn't risk buying - also the market for second hand ones is going down because people won't have any warranty whatever they buy is not one at risk. The resale value drops quickly with this.





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VKoil: The airline ban is going to be hard to enforce... Will it be a temporary ban until Samsung rectifies the issue or a permanent ban?


Why on earth would it be a permanent ban?? Once the bad-egg batteries have been sorted, the N7 will be functional no different to any other phone. 



I wonder if the Note7 will ever come back with this name. By now it's something that people shouldn't/wouldn't risk buying - also the market for second hand ones is going down because people won't have any warranty whatever they buy is not one at risk. The resale value drops quickly with this.



It is really going to bite Samsung. Sales of Note 7 will bomb.




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  # 1626697 9-Sep-2016 19:16
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VKoil: The airline ban is going to be hard to enforce... Will it be a temporary ban until Samsung rectifies the issue or a permanent ban?

 

Why on earth would it be a permanent ban?? Once the bad-egg batteries have been sorted, the N7 will be functional no different to any other phone. 

 

 

I wonder if the Note7 will ever come back with this name. By now it's something that people shouldn't/wouldn't risk buying - also the market for second hand ones is going down because people won't have any warranty whatever they buy is not one at risk. The resale value drops quickly with this.

 

 

Very insightful comment. I am now re-considering my thought above about 'no different'. Will think about all this overnight and may go back to my supplier and try to undo the replace arrangement with a money-back. Then just chill with my old HTC One M7 of which I'm still very fond - and wait for the 'next big thing'  - not iPhone 7 - maybe Sony Xperia XZ when it arrives.


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Renaming the new supply could be a good idea to differentiate between the original version and the new battery version. But they'd have to do that to the packaging and the os device name.

 
 
 
 




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ibuksh: Renaming the new supply could be a good idea to differentiate between the original version and the new battery version. But they'd have to do that to the packaging and the os device name.

 

Samsung Galaxy Note7F - for Fixed?


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  # 1626784 9-Sep-2016 22:21
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VKoil: The airline ban is going to be hard to enforce... Will it be a temporary ban until Samsung rectifies the issue or a permanent ban?

 

Why on earth would it be a permanent ban?? Once the bad-egg batteries have been sorted, the N7 will be functional no different to any other phone. 

 

 

I wonder if the Note7 will ever come back with this name. By now it's something that people shouldn't/wouldn't risk buying - also the market for second hand ones is going down because people won't have any warranty whatever they buy is not one at risk. The resale value drops quickly with this.

 

 

 

 

Wouldn't the scale of that sort of thing be all but impossible in any realistic timescale?

 

You may as well ditch it, pulp all the stock and relaunch a new device with new internals etc to challenge next year's iPhone.






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  # 1626787 9-Sep-2016 22:25
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I'd not be surprised to see a sticker on the device and/or box to clearly denote an updated battery model.

 

Also not too surprised to see the memory card they give you go to 256Gb and maybe some other give away - cases, desk charger or something. Maybe special warranty like Apple Care for 3 years or something.

 

Given the billions spent on getting the phone designed and made, I would expect them to at least have a pretty good go at trying to ship it.






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  # 1626794 9-Sep-2016 22:44
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Found this on Gizmodo

 

 

 

Following the recent recall of over 51,000 Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphones in Australia, Samsung has confirmed replacement stock will be available in the country from September 21.

 

The new batch will be identifiable by a small black square on the white barcode label along with a white sticker with a blue letter S on the box, and you’ll be able to check your IMEI number on an a database to be set up on the Samsung Australia website.

 

“We would like to thank our loyal customers for their patience, and apologise for the inconvenience,” said Richard Fink, Vice President IT & Mobile at Samsung Electronics Australia. “We have been working hard to get the amazing Galaxy Note7 back in the hands of our customers to continue to enjoy.”

 

Fink says in a statement Samsung’s number one priority is the safety of customers, “which is why we’ve worked hard to provide new replacement Note7 devices as quickly as possible”.

 

Sales of the new Note7 stock will resume “in early October”.






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The white barcode sticker that is easily removed. Try convincing an airline about that one.

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  # 1626804 9-Sep-2016 23:38
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lquify: The white barcode sticker that is easily removed. Try convincing an airline about that one.

 

 

 

No one bothers about Apple laptops. Why should phones be different?

 

 

 

"Apple is approaching its tenth year of exploding laptop batteries and might be fine with telling customers that its batteries bursting apart is "expected behavior." But believe me, it's far from expected, routine or safe when it actually happens."






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  # 1626805 9-Sep-2016 23:51
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Ouch:

 

 

 

"Samsung estimated about 2 trillion won or $1.8 billion needed for the recall. The defect rate for the Galaxy 7s is an infinitesimal 24 per every 1 million phones."






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Guten Tag from Berlin!

 

Whilst on stop over in Singapore on the way over I managed to get a look at the Black Note7 and I am going to ask Samsung to replace my Gold one with Black. My God it's really something. 

 

Also I went to the Sony Centre in Berlin about a minutes walk from my hotel, and wow they have some awesome stuff we don't see in NZ. They have the Xperia Z5 Premium (which I know is sold in NZ) or something which really lit my candles, and their new range of headphones including the Z1 and $2200 Euro who's model escapes me, were simply and utterly mind-blowingly good. 


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