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  Reply # 1654942 20-Oct-2016 10:11
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Per one of the above posts, you can use the CheckR app.

If you've only paid a buck-fifty I wouldn't be holding my breath that they are compliant.

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  Reply # 1654950 20-Oct-2016 10:25
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Micro to USB-C adapter: http://dynamix.co.nz/home/usb-products/usb800/Y-A027AGY

 

USB-A to USB-C: http://dynamix.co.nz/home/cables2/cc680/Y-C474BK

 

 

 

i've tested the cable and it passes the CheckR app test on a Nexus phone


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1654973 20-Oct-2016 10:49
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mattyjnz: Per one of the above posts, you can use the CheckR app.

If you've only paid a buck-fifty I wouldn't be holding my breath that they are compliant.

 

But surely using an app on your phone to check tha cable requires you to plug the cable into your phone and plug the cable into a power source? So you risk frying your phone and / or the power source while your conducting the test? Or is it ok to run the test for a few minutes (e.g. the overload doesn't happen instantly)?


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  Reply # 1655000 20-Oct-2016 11:14
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mattyjnz: Per one of the above posts, you can use the CheckR app.

If you've only paid a buck-fifty I wouldn't be holding my breath that they are compliant.

 

I've gone back and read the descriptions to the cables/adapters that I've ordered.

 

This one says "High power capacity (3A) for faster charges" so I guess it's ok.

 

This one and this one make no mention of 56k resistors or fast charging or anything like that.

 

Does the charger I use make a difference? I've got a charger that came with one of my old phones that consists of a wall plug and it accepts a USB type A cable. I was hoping to use one of the Type A - Type C cables that I've ordered with it. The charger says "PRI: 100-240V~ 50/60Hz 150mA SEC: 5V - 1000mA" on it. Will this be suitable for my Nexus 5X? I don't really care if it doesn't do rapid charging, it's just for charging in the office, but I don't want to damage anything.


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  Reply # 1655003 20-Oct-2016 11:18
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Depends if it has a current limit in it, or will just cook or blow up if you take too much current from it.





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  Reply # 1655013 20-Oct-2016 11:41
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Dang, this is harder than I thought! I balked at the prices Warehouse Stationery were charging for these sorts of cables (a Belkin Type A to Type C is $39.95!) and I need 4 of these cables (car, office, home and portable battery pack).

 

So, if I understand this correctly, a proper cable/adapter will stop the phone from trying to draw too much power from the computer / power supply, thus stopping the computer / power supply from blowing up?


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  Reply # 1655026 20-Oct-2016 11:52
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I have not come across a charger that would blow up since a handful of 3rd party iphone chargers many years back.

 

Car chargers however are another story. Have melted a couple of cheapies with the note 3 in the past when it was able to pull too much from them with no shutdown or limiting.





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  Reply # 1655035 20-Oct-2016 12:11
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richms:

 

I have not come across a charger that would blow up since a handful of 3rd party iphone chargers many years back.

 

Car chargers however are another story. Have melted a couple of cheapies with the note 3 in the past when it was able to pull too much from them with no shutdown or limiting.

 

 

Could I use something like this to test the cables?

 

If the cable was faulty (e.g. not stopping the device from drawing too much current) then is it ok to use something like the Charge Doctor for a small amount of time (a minute?) to test the cable? Or do I risk damage even after only a few seconds use?


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  Reply # 1655059 20-Oct-2016 12:38
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Watch with charger doctors if you use a quick charge charger, not all are happy with the higher voltages used. Those dirt cheap ones will smoke up on a 9v charge.

 

Phones tend to ramp their charge rates up when on a non QC charger, so you will see them go to a few 100mA, then go up and up from there.

 

But really stop overthinking things. If the charger dies, it was a piece of crap anyway, if the phone dies it has a warranty.





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  Reply # 1655089 20-Oct-2016 13:39
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Yeah you're right, I'm probably overthinking it. But just to be on the safe side, I'm much more likely to damage the charger than my phone, right?


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  Reply # 1655112 20-Oct-2016 14:23
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If you are interested, buy a usb volt/amp meter for $5 and find out what is really happening.

This sort of thing: https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32628944719.html

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  Reply # 1655325 20-Oct-2016 20:10
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MurrayM:

 

I'm much more likely to damage the charger than my phone, right?

 

 

Not necessarily. Check Amazon and Reddit - there have been several reported cases of people frying the ports on their device due to bad Type-C cables.

 

In fact, one cable was so bad that it fried Benson Leung's Chromebook - Benson, if you aren't aware, is a Google engineer who's famous for testing and reviewing USB Type-C products.

 

Bad USB Type-C cables and chargers are quite the hot topic right now - I would highly recommend erring on the side of caution.

 

Key things to look for in the spec sheet:

 

- Mentions that the cable adheres to Type-C specifications
- 56 kΩ pull-up resistor- Preferably certified by the USB-IF
- Bonus: Approved by Benson Leung (check his reviews on Amazon)

If you're buying from a physical store and there's no mention of any of the above, google the cable and see if there are any reviews about it.

Also, I would recommend going thru Benson's G+ Profile to get a better idea about Type-C, which accessories are safe, the dangers of non-compliant products etc.



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  Reply # 1655342 20-Oct-2016 20:27
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d3Xt3r:

 

 

 

Not necessarily. Check Amazon and Reddit - there have been several reported cases of people frying the ports on their device due to bad Type-C cables.

 

 

Thanks for the info, I'll definitely check those out. Fortunately I've only wasted less than $10 in cheap-o cables from China. Looks like I'll have to do some more research and spend more to do the job properly.


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  Reply # 1655681 21-Oct-2016 13:32
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There are some edge cases when using a high voltage charger and then moving to a device that needs low voltage, and the cable preventing the charger from changing down.

 

There are some clearly miswired cables that are blowing things up.If you are using a non high voltage charger with the cable, the only thing that can mess things up is a polarity reversal which is a manufacturing fault. Unless they quality control every cable that could happen to any manufacturer with a half asleep person on the cable crimping machine. That risk has always existed with any cable ever made.

 

If you are wanting to charge a phone, off a standard 5v wall adapter then any cable should be fine providing that they have not stuffed up. Sure it might not be quick charging etc but based on how hot some of the new phones get when quick charging I would rather not be doing that other than when really needed.

 

The usualy problems of crap cables having excessive voltage drop and poor strain relief still exist, so quality still matters there.





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  Reply # 1660406 29-Oct-2016 13:31
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I really cannot get over how difficult it is to find a genuine, certified USB charger to charge my friends Nexus 6P rapidly- that has the 2/3 pin plug for NZ.

 

There seem to be a few for US (though I wouldn't say a flood of choices), but at least they have a choice.

 

Google NZ appear to have stopped selling any kind of USB C chargers at all for the Nexus, so don't have that option.

 

 

 

I'm not opposed to spending money on a decent charger... but where are the damn chargers?! 

 

 

 

I was looking at getting a Ankler USB C/USB C cable, and just need a wall charger.. Any ideas? 
Doesn't help when the market is flooded by cheap crap that claims to be certified and isn't. 






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