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  Reply # 1913412 5-Dec-2017 16:15
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Maybe the handset was blacklisted by mistake? they can Type the wrong IMIE number....


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  Reply # 1913414 5-Dec-2017 16:18
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cruxis:

 

What type of phone is it, is it possible to change the IMEI number on it?

 

 

 

 

That would be illegal 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1913417 5-Dec-2017 16:22
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1101:

 

I cant imagine the police being interested at all.
If they cant respond to REAL crimes, they wont be wasting time on a phone from trademe.

 

 

 

 

They are too busy busting green fairies.

 

 





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  Reply # 1913420 5-Dec-2017 16:23
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Starscream122:

 

cruxis:

 

What type of phone is it, is it possible to change the IMEI number on it?

 

 

 

 

That would be illegal 

 

 

And selling a phone that hasn't been paid for isn't?

 

 





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  Reply # 1913423 5-Dec-2017 16:33
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Just talked to Disputes Tribunal, would need to lodge with them get a hearing date before a judge if they don't turn up they can appeal a judgment against them and time can be an hour for the hearing plus time to travel. 

 

The only people I haven't called are TradeMe just don't want to pay for their 0900 number but will email I think its required here.

 

Anyway what a load of fluffing around.

 

 


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  Reply # 1913430 5-Dec-2017 16:40
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Why is this a civil problem?
I thought selling stolen property is a crime?



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  Reply # 1913431 5-Dec-2017 16:41
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Anyway I have wasted too much time on this;

 

In my view TradeMe needs to offer a form of consumer insurance to cover such eventualities sellers can pay a small percentage or it could be global user pays based on buys and sells.

 

All I can say after this you cannot trust the system if a delayed time bomb can be detonated and you loose or cannot use something you paid for not right.  


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  Reply # 1913432 5-Dec-2017 16:45
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0800 334 332

^The number I was given when I encountered a fraudster on TradeMe. Pretty sure it's their site policing team.




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  Reply # 1913433 5-Dec-2017 16:46
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Its not a Crime due to the chain 1. Telco > 2. Person X who did not pay for phone > 3. Boss > 4. Person who I bought the Phone off > 5. Me

 

4 <> 5 - is the person I'm dealing with and he did not steal the phone.

 

Actually to my previous post.  To trust anything on TradeMe you must sight and keep the original purchase receipt so its been paid for in full its the only way to be safe.




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  Reply # 1913434 5-Dec-2017 16:46
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Thanks Sam91




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  Reply # 1913437 5-Dec-2017 16:59
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UPDATE:

 

Called the 0800 number at TradeMe, their Fraud team is looking into this and highly recommended I go to the Disputes Tribunal in this case. As such I'll call the guy and let him know I won't take the 70% option. It was a good call.

 

 


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  Reply # 1913461 5-Dec-2017 17:22
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It is also worth investigating if you can put the Telco as a party in the disputes tribunal proceedings.  If the phone wasn't stolen and they haven't registered it as security on the PPSR then you may find that they are not legally able to block the phone if they haven't registered a security interest over it.


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  Reply # 1913477 5-Dec-2017 18:13
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DeepBlueSky:

 

Its not a Crime due to the chain 1. Telco > 2. Person X who did not pay for phone > 3. Boss > 4. Person who I bought the Phone off > 5. Me

 

4 <> 5 - is the person I'm dealing with and he did not steal the phone.

 

 

You're assuming the "boss" actually exists, and the phone was bought by an actual person, not a stolen identity used to fake a credit application.


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  Reply # 1913488 5-Dec-2017 19:17
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DeepBlueSky:

 

UPDATE:

 

Called the 0800 number at TradeMe, their Fraud team is looking into this and highly recommended I go to the Disputes Tribunal in this case. As such I'll call the guy and let him know I won't take the 70% option. It was a good call.

 

 

If you weren't already advised of it at Trade Me, an option to file a dispute report exists:

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/help/897/filing-a-dispute-report

 

 


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  Reply # 1913544 5-Dec-2017 20:43
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DeepBlueSky:

 

Its not a Crime due to the chain 1. Telco > 2. Person X who did not pay for phone > 3. Boss > 4. Person who I bought the Phone off > 5. Me

 

4 <> 5 - is the person I'm dealing with and he did not steal the phone.

 

 

You're assuming the "boss" actually exists, and the phone was bought by an actual person, not a stolen identity used to fake a credit application.

 

 

And even if the chain is correct, person 4 who sold you the phone should be liable, as they sold you something that they didn't actually have title to. But I suspect the chain isn't true, and @RunningMan is correct.

 

Personally, I would go the Disputes Tribunal route. It isn't just about the money, I would have been actively defrauded and there is a point of principle here.


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