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  Reply # 1972608 11-Mar-2018 06:20
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Huh? I was saying you are entitled to your opinion which is taken as seriously as you take others. Not a dig at you personally, just a giggle at your comment, hence the smiley face afterward.

 

 

Except my post wasn't opinion. It's a fact that review systems are commonly gamed.


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  Reply # 1972610 11-Mar-2018 07:01
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I went into a PBtech branch asking when and if the M6 Note was going to arrive as my phone was terminal. There was a general lack of enthusiasm for the brand, I was recommended the Moto G5s Plus but they didn't seem to want to sell that either as the price was $50 dearer than Noel Leemings. Meizu bluetooth earbuds on the other hand got a thumbs-up "Quite a few of the staff have those"

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  Reply # 1972860 11-Mar-2018 21:28
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My wife's G5 (not S, not plus) arrived today. The S model is newer, the plus larger, but same CPU in them. It cost about US$180, NZ$250. Amazon took ages to put the order together so they upgraded to DHL express free - nice service there.

 

So far I'm reasonably impressed with the phone. Stock Android without anything much extra to annoy you.

 

It updated to Android 7.0 patch level August 2017. I expect it will update to Android 8.0 at some point as it's been released, depending on carrier and such.

 

The fingerprint scanner works well. It's not quite as fast as the P9, but it's pretty close. The screen size isn't far off the P9 either, with the bezel bigger but it's fine. The screen seems good.

 

Performance is good. It's not quite as fast as the P9 for general stuff like launching apps, doing updates, but it's so close anyone who's not a power user probably wouldn't notice. You can zip around into settings, change apps, do all kinds of things quickly. It's about 20X faster than the original Moto G, which is 5 years old now. That thing is glacial. I might even consider a Moto G6 or G7 when it comes time to replace my phone.

 

So for wives, children, and anyone who just wants a smartphone to do standard stuff, so far it seems fine. I'll report back later when we know more about the camera and have used it a bit more.





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  Reply # 1973135 12-Mar-2018 12:41
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TeaLeaf:

 

Huh? I was saying you are entitled to your opinion which is taken as seriously as you take others. Not a dig at you personally, just a giggle at your comment, hence the smiley face afterward.

 

 

Except my post wasn't opinion. It's a fact that review systems are commonly gamed.

 

 

Yeah that is true. But in this case Im fairly happy with the site, the comments back up the professional reviews as well in whats good and bad.

 

The 1 thing the g5s is better at is brightness, 560 nits vs 450. Generally 450 is the baseline for direct sunlight. Personally I have never used my phone in direct sunlight so Im not too bothered, but if one does it might be a consideration.

 

Otherwise 1GB more ram, much better camera, 4000mah vs 3000mah battery, for half the price its a steal.

 

Asian market phones have come a long way and are getting better and better, Xiaomi is the laptop and Television market now for example.

 

And lets not forget where all phones are actually made. I think the fear of the unknown, some dud older products and some lack of support in the companies infancy are fair enough reasons to worry some people. Ive been in the Asian phone market thing for a long time now so I tend to have an idea of which models suck and which ones are good and for the 5.5" note segment prior to this model I would have recommended Xiaomi over Meizu. But this is a big step up over the M5 which imo never should have been released as it added nothing over the 3.

 

For me if Im spending close to $500 for a mid-bottom range phone, Im going to spend $700 and get something with more mid-flagship properties, ie AMOLED, 1440p, sd835.

 

Thats where my problem lies with g5s plus, its just on that cusp. Its not that its a bad phone, I just feel the whole, well known brand market phones are way over priced. I mean galaxy S9 for $1600? Seriously, its a phone ! Yes it does cool things, but its getting out of hand and I think the more the Asian phone market penetrates mainstream the more pressure will be applied to pricing. We are down 15% on upgrades, ie S8 to S9 and we are down on people buying the very top end market phones. I do believe people are waking up slowly to it all.

id have less issue if phones were more like what Microsoft is working on, one device to replace 3. And I have no idea how Apple has been selling for its prices considering the screens and some other hardware, but that new A11x chip is quite easily powerful enough to run OSX. If that occured and we could use our phones to run say desktop Light Room, id have no issue with $1500. Samsungs Dex is kind of like how MS Andromeda will work, but Qualcomm cpus dont have the power for ultrabook level computing. They run a web browser and an app or two, where as the A11x is up with intels line of CPUs benchmark wise, and the GPU is plenty powerful enough.

The Surface line of MS after starting to show up in movies and TV shows now replacing the predictable Apple Mac. To be fair there arent any products that rival the Surface Book and especially the Surface Studio. If they release a phone that is a full fledged computer, I think its a game changer because unlike the Surface line which they have to price Apple esque (ie high, but in this case you get more for that high end pricing), with phones they dont have to worry about pissing off their OEMs for Win10 because they bought out Lumia and have essentially squashed it.

I digress.




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  Reply # 1973146 12-Mar-2018 12:52
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Bung: I went into a PBtech branch asking when and if the M6 Note was going to arrive as my phone was terminal. There was a general lack of enthusiasm for the brand, I was recommended the Moto G5s Plus but they didn't seem to want to sell that either as the price was $50 dearer than Noel Leemings. Meizu bluetooth earbuds on the other hand got a thumbs-up "Quite a few of the staff have those"

 

If I was going to buy locally I too would consider the Moto for warranty. Personally warranty doesnt phase me on lower end items.

 

Both are plenty quick enough so the 1GB extra ram is meaningless really. The camera is definitely good on the Meizu, its the same sensor as the HTCu11 which DXOmark rate in the top 3 cameras. Clearly the HTC has better lenses none the less the Meizu has a sweet camera for the money (you wont get better at that price point).

 

Battery life is up to the individual. A lot of people easily get to 2 days from the Meizu, people with the Moto often comment it runs out about 1.5 days. I guess that makes sense based on their sizes.

 

We are not far out from the new Nokias being released, they run stock android and are on the Android 1 membership, which basically means they will be the fastest phones to get android updates/patches etc. The new nokia 6 might be in your price range and worth considering.

 

Here are all 3 for you to compare.

 

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8802&idPhone2=8699&idPhone3=8972

 

And this is Android one, do some googling to on the topic

 

https://www.android.com/one/

 

Essentially it limits the work required OEMs to create skins for Android. Now dont get me wrong, some phones need it. For example the Galaxy Note line, would not be of use without the Note software. But personally outside those situations, very few companies make a UI that has better UX than stock android, most just add bloatware.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1973151 12-Mar-2018 12:56
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TeaLeaf:

 

For me if Im spending close to $500 for a mid-bottom range phone, Im going to spend $700 and get something with more mid-flagship properties, ie AMOLED, 1440p, sd835.

 

 

G5 cost about $240 imported from Amazon.com for I think for what I would consider midrange. Pretty good value really. Make it a touch snappier and put on USB-C and I'd probably buy one.

 

Phones are getting crazy expensive adding stuff most people don't want or need. Give me a 1080p phone that starts apps reasonably quickly and runs reasonably quickly, looks ok (most phones look identical), decent battery life. I don't need the best screen ever, higher resolution, a massive screen, curved, AI, GPU made for games or VR, etc. I do like USB C because it's easier to plug in, I do like faster charging.





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TeaLeaf:

 

For me if Im spending close to $500 for a mid-bottom range phone, Im going to spend $700 and get something with more mid-flagship properties, ie AMOLED, 1440p, sd835.

 

 

G5 cost about $240 imported from Amazon.com for I think for what I would consider midrange. Pretty good value really. Make it a touch snappier and put on USB-C and I'd probably buy one.

 

 

I think for most the 430 SOC runs fine, its when people forget to close applications that is the issue, then the stuttering of the browser occurs. Also RAM can be an issue but generally again if you know what you are working with its fine. The benefit of the G5 was its smaller size.

 

The Meizu m6 note is $230 delivered. Its definitely a lot more powerful, longer battery, much much better camera, 5.5", is already on Oreo update. But not everyone wants a big phone. I have a 4" Win10 phone I still prefer to take out as I dont even feel it in my pocket.

Horses for courses :-)

 

Im glad it worked out good Tim, not everyone needs a $1500 phone right....


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  Reply # 1973165 12-Mar-2018 13:09
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Otherwise 1GB more ram, much better camera, 4000mah vs 3000mah battery, for half the price its a steal.



When you refer to 4GB ram that means the 64GB model that is dearer??



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Bung:
TeaLeaf:

 

 

 

Otherwise 1GB more ram, much better camera, 4000mah vs 3000mah battery, for half the price its a steal.

 



When you refer to 4GB ram that means the 64GB model that is dearer??

 

In NZ, Yeah. Personally is it worth it? Well 2018 3GB I think is still ok. It just depends how good you are at closing apps behind you.

 

Something to think about just around the corner;

 

Ok so to sum up the new Nokia 6 (2018 version).

 

Zeiss lenses added but same sensor (dont expect miracles, but I own a camera lol).

 

Move from SD430 to SD630, this is the big move, the SD630 will provide a much speedier experience with multiple apps, offers better battery saving features etc etc

 

Move to Android one, no bloatware

 

4GB and 3GB variants

 

Its body which is carved from solid Aluminum looks even more svelte if that is possible, very classy.

 

https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/buyers-guides/nokia/143335-nokia-6-2018-vs-nokia-6-2017

 

I might just hang on for a few weeks, I wish we had an actual release date for NZ.

 

Edit: Ugggh everywhere just says from April. Pricing is around $450AU, so about $500NZD which is pretty darn good for such a classy phone. I need a phone right now though, from April could be May for NZ which could be 8 weeks.

 

 




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Ignore that, the G5s runs off the sd430 soc, so not the same as the plus.edit my reply

 

Nokia 6 2018 has to be the hottest looking phone of 2018. $500, Id be waiting and trying to get a loaner for a few months.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM7Bjla3sdc

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1973265 12-Mar-2018 14:46
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@TeaLeaf you should not kill applications. There are article on this from Google, Wired, The Verge. It takes more battery overall and slows things down.

 

If the phone needs more RAM it's quite capable of killing applications itself, but killing them when there's enough RAM takes more battery as launching from scratch takes more work.





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Yes that is quite true on android OS. good point. I just HATE having apps open. its the neat freak in me. i do it on all OS. i especially found on OSX, when I had 4Gb ram, i couldnt have more than 1 app open before hitting threshold. Once I upgraded to 8GB I found the actual base was around 5GB.

 

Im tossing up in my head whether a 6" screen can replace a 9.7" ipad or not. Then there is the galaxy s8 plus with 18.5:9 which does make good use of veritcal scrolling. id love an ipad plus 10.5 but cant justify the cost for watching netflix, youtube etc. but im not the sort to fiddle with phone in public so is a small screen phone and a base model 9.7 ipad a better choice.


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  Reply # 1973281 12-Mar-2018 15:00
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TeaLeaf:

 

In NZ, Yeah. Personally is it worth it? Well 2018 3GB I think is still ok. It just depends how good you are at closing apps behind you.

 

 

I think you're correct in that 3GB is a good number for now, particularly paired with a decent SoC, for many users.


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  Reply # 1973284 12-Mar-2018 15:03
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TeaLeaf:

 

Ignore that, the G5s runs off the sd430 soc, so not the same as the plus.

 

Nokia 6 2018 has to be the hottest looking phone of 2018. $500, Id be waiting and trying to get a loaner for a few months.

 

 

Remembering the G5s is a 2017 phone. I'd go the Nokia 6, newer, and would probably be nicer anyhow. I'll keep an eye on it myself, I have an old Nokia which will become less useful as the year goes on, could be a good replacement.


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