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  # 2072050 12-Aug-2018 15:37
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Oblivian:
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RichardWong:

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OK so this one, the LG7 and the Note 9 are now on the shortlist. 


This and the LG have aptx-HD, the P20 has better battery life and camera, the LG is dual sim. The Note has good battery, good screen, good storage.


Note and LG are available with good bundles at PB Tech, the P20 Pro seems not to be now.



 


P20 Pro also has dual SIM


 



PB Tech spec says not? Perhaps @NikT might clarify if around.


Youl Recall your DSE thread. Indeed the NZ clt-l09c is the single ver (per huawei NZ) when the AU's one is dual :(

And it's all 2degrees stock/ :/


Your memory is better than mine! ;-)





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  # 2072052 12-Aug-2018 15:47
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You may say I'm doing some side by side NZ based options too..

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  # 2072189 12-Aug-2018 16:43
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Oblivian: You may say I'm doing some side by side NZ based options too..

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Much slicker than my Biro scribbles on my desk jotter!

It would be helpful if Google enforced software updates in the same way Apple does. I'm looking the LG G7 but concerned I'd not get any software updates: it ships with Android 8.0 and 8.1 is out, as of course is 9.0. I suppose that's no different from my current phone though.





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  # 2072197 12-Aug-2018 17:19
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The clueless sales staff at some shops have no understanding of the updates issue with some brands of phones.


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  # 2072210 12-Aug-2018 17:53
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The clueless sales staff at some shops have no understanding of the updates issue with some brands of phones.

 

 

 

 

I'm not surprised.

 

 

 

It is, IMO, the worst thing about Android v iOS. You get these great bits of hardware, most of which might get updates for 18 months if you are lucky and even then some months behind the actual release. Google should put their foot down and refuse to allow makers to use Android unless they properly commit to regular, timely updates for at least 24 months after purchase. A 5 year old iPhone is running the latest iOS today: granted, it may not support every  feature of that software but the core will be the same as a $2000 iPhone X fresh in the box.

 

Android handsets are very, very good, but the software part less so.






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  # 2072247 12-Aug-2018 19:16
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Oblivian:
Geektastic:
RichardWong:

 

Geektastic:

 

OK so this one, the LG7 and the Note 9 are now on the shortlist. 

 

This and the LG have aptx-HD, the P20 has better battery life and camera, the LG is dual sim. The Note has good battery, good screen, good storage.

 

Note and LG are available with good bundles at PB Tech, the P20 Pro seems not to be now.

 

 

P20 Pro also has dual SIM

 



PB Tech spec says not? Perhaps @NikT might clarify if around.


Youl Recall your DSE thread. Indeed the NZ clt-l09c is the single ver (per huawei NZ) when the AU's one is dual :(

And it's all 2degrees stock/ :/


 

Yeah price drop for P20 Pro right now rather than bundle. Local stock is single SIM because it's ranged by and sold through the telcos. FWIW there is only one local software variant each for the P20 and P20 Pro rather than per-telco (Vodafone/Spark/2d) variants, the devices autoconfigure for the telco of the SIM that's inserted and all telcos sell the same hardware/software SKUs.

 

 

 

Oblivian: You may say I'm doing some side by side NZ based options too..

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I like it!

 

There will no doubt be a few more things to add to that list before the year's up.

 

Be tempted to add a breakdown of which core architecture each chipset has, you'll get a markedly different experience using something with A7x big cores than all A5x little cores. To my mind the Snapdragon 835 remains the benchmark for a balance between power and efficiency - Huawei have something very similar in the Kirin 970 so kudos to them for putting it in a wide variety of devices at accessible price points.

 

 

 

Geektastic:

 

It is, IMO, the worst thing about Android v iOS. You get these great bits of hardware, most of which might get updates for 18 months if you are lucky and even then some months behind the actual release. Google should put their foot down and refuse to allow makers to use Android unless they properly commit to regular, timely updates for at least 24 months after purchase. A 5 year old iPhone is running the latest iOS today: granted, it may not support every  feature of that software but the core will be the same as a $2000 iPhone X fresh in the box.

 

Android handsets are very, very good, but the software part less so.

 

 

To my mind all pieces of hardware are now as-a-service, with the service period being its useful lifespan to you personally vs. its support lifecycle. When it's the device I use most, for both work and personal communications, it breaks down to cost per day of use. It remains frustrating that support lifecycles are essentially an unknown quantity, especially for NZ and AU-specific software variants. Huawei's dual SIM open market devices have been good in that regard, as updates are shared across APAC countries.

 

As always the update piece won't be solved until there is an ongoing revenue model for the manufacturer. Microsoft, Apple, and Google have these, the rest don't really, hence the state of updates today. If Google was serious about updates and security on devices running their platform, they would share the 30% revenue cut from the Play Store with the device vendors. As-is, platform and security updates cost money to build/certify/test/deploy, hardware margins are small, devs gotta eat, status quo remains.

 

I like my V30 a lot right now and look forward to seeing what both LG and Huawei have up their sleeves for the year's end.





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  # 2072274 12-Aug-2018 21:33
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Thanks @NikT.

The software part pushes me towards the Pixel 2 although the XL 2 would be better I think but doesn't seem to be available easily here.

LG G7, Pixel 2 and P20 Pro all support aptx-HD so good for wireless audio.






 
 
 
 


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  # 2072531 13-Aug-2018 10:31
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Yeah price drop for P20 Pro right now rather than bundle. Local stock is single SIM because it's ranged by and sold through the telcos. FWIW there is only one local software variant each for the P20 and P20 Pro rather than per-telco (Vodafone/Spark/2d) variants, the devices autoconfigure for the telco of the SIM that's inserted and all telcos sell the same hardware/software SKUs.

 

 

 

 

Not so much of a drop and NL are still bundling at the same price...!






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  # 2072546 13-Aug-2018 10:52
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32" 4K if you are so inclined from 2D..

 

 

 

Do spreadsheets like that when shopping around. Figure if its in my pocket on google its handy :D saves pricepoint driven sales pitches when you get raw facts


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Huawei P20 - I seem to be stuck on Android security patch 1 June 2018, EMUI 8.1.0.130 even though at least 2 newer updates have been released globally (.133 & .164 - bringing it up to at least Android security patch September 2018)

 

Spoke to my MNP (2degrees) who say they haven't received the latest updates from Huawei, Huawei say I have to speak to my MNP.

 

Can anyone with a NZ sourced P20 advise what monthly patch / EMUI versions they are on along with what network it was purchased on? Trying to work out if it's a provider delay or entire region.

 

 

 

Thanks!


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Using Spark P20 Pro and on CLT-L09 8.1.0.130(C706) EMUI 8.1.0 Haven't had an update for a while now.






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  # 2114481 26-Oct-2018 15:02
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maoriboy:

 

Using Spark P20 Pro and on CLT-L09 8.1.0.130(C706) EMUI 8.1.0 Haven't had an update for a while now.

 

 

Confirming that's also June security patch (99.9% sure it would be)?


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  # 2114482 26-Oct-2018 15:10
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Yep June security patch






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  # 2114484 26-Oct-2018 15:16
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Ok cool. Being a relatively new handset I hope they haven't forgotten about little old NZ already :)

 

If anyone with a NZ device has anything more recent please feel free to add.


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  # 2114570 26-Oct-2018 17:50
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I thought the idea was it was basically the same non specific provider handset SW across the range and any updates were to all and sundry :/


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