S8/Note 8 looks to work with new DEX pad when it gets Oreo in 2k

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timbosan

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Uber Geek

#1987448 3-Apr-2018 09:54

TeaLeaf:

timbosan:

Anyone hear seen the Linux on Dex plans? It seems you need the new Dex Pad to enable this. I have signed up to the Samsung Linux thing, and very keen to see if/how a S8/Note/etc. could work as a truly mobile solution.

Af far as I can tell, the Linux distro is an APK, so not sure if its somehow virtualised or running native.

Yes. And thanks for getting things back on track.

I also liked the VM to Windows, but I dont know how fast thats going to operate considering it acted like a dog on my 2011 MBP.

No worries ;-)

Not sure if its getting off topic, but have you looked at the other (non Samsung) Dex solutions? There is a guy on Youtube (don't have his details on me) who has customised the firmware on his S8 so it works with other USB-C docks. Apparently all that Samsung have done with the S8 (and I assume the Notes and S9) is to limit the ID's from the docks that work with their phones.

restecp

105 posts

Master Geek

#1987464 3-Apr-2018 10:18

TeaLeaf:

timbosan:

Anyone hear seen the Linux on Dex plans? It seems you need the new Dex Pad to enable this. I have signed up to the Samsung Linux thing, and very keen to see if/how a S8/Note/etc. could work as a truly mobile solution.

Af far as I can tell, the Linux distro is an APK, so not sure if its somehow virtualised or running native.

Yes. And thanks for getting things back on track.

I also liked the VM to Windows, but I dont know how fast thats going to operate considering it acted like a dog on my 2011 MBP.

I've seen this working with 4x VDI solutions running all at once.

Windows / Citrix / Amazon Workspaces / VMWare Horizon all at once and all working insanely well on a 4G connection.

Works really really well.

timbosan

1704 posts

Uber Geek

#1987482 3-Apr-2018 10:43

restecp:

TeaLeaf:

timbosan:

Anyone hear seen the Linux on Dex plans? It seems you need the new Dex Pad to enable this. I have signed up to the Samsung Linux thing, and very keen to see if/how a S8/Note/etc. could work as a truly mobile solution.

Af far as I can tell, the Linux distro is an APK, so not sure if its somehow virtualised or running native.

Yes. And thanks for getting things back on track.

I also liked the VM to Windows, but I dont know how fast thats going to operate considering it acted like a dog on my 2011 MBP.

I've seen this working with 4x VDI solutions running all at once.

Windows / Citrix / Amazon Workspaces / VMWare Horizon all at once and all working insanely well on a 4G connection.

Works really really well.

Just to clarify, you mean on a Dex Dock? It SHOULD work ok, as each is just an RDP type app with all the work being done on remote servers.

Do you have a link to share for this?

restecp

105 posts

Master Geek

#1987484 3-Apr-2018 10:45

Saw this on DeX pad but would work on DeX dock as well.

No sorry this was an internal thing so can't share but can assure you this worked really well.

Saw some virtualised windows based apps as well instead of having to virtualised an a whole OS. This worked surprisingly well too.

TeaLeaf

3719 posts

Uber Geek

#1987491 3-Apr-2018 10:58

timbosan:

Not sure if its getting off topic, but have you looked at the other (non Samsung) Dex solutions? There is a guy on Youtube (don't have his details on me) who has customised the firmware on his S8 so it works with other USB-C docks. Apparently all that Samsung have done with the S8 (and I assume the Notes and S9) is to limit the ID's from the docks that work with their phones.

Yeah Ive looked at other phones with MHL connections and launchers.

The mat10 has a straight usbc to hdmi connection for its desktop launcher.

The Dock is indeed not cheap, but then again nor are any samsung phones haha.

I had considered buying an S7 or a Note 5, so looking at how they could be used with a launcher. I havnt bought the S8 yet. The note 5 with a new battery could make me happy, id do the battery myself. There are S8 launchers for the note 5 which include most of the S8 features.

I also reallt HATE curved front screens. I like curved back, that makes sense. But when you have glass on both sides, it makes it feel like a bar of soap and the amount of used S8s with cracked screens. Really not a good industrial design, all aesthetics which I actually dont like.

But I will lose HDR with the Note 5 or if I just go a phone with the S7.

How do you VM to windows on the S8 notes dex system?

restecp

105 posts

Master Geek

#1987549 3-Apr-2018 12:01

A couple of things that I have seen (in my small amount of research) that is missed by using the MHL style launcher alternatives.

The devices do not charge when using them limiting your day to day usage to a few hours.
The USB ports are a HUGE deal providing you the option of using external drives / USB sticks etc. These also allow you to use a wired keyboard and mouse if so required.

Some devices only have one USB type C port for charging and audio and this can be a problem if you don't have bluetooth headphones but are required to make phone calls.

The DeX dock also allows for ethernet which in certain situations is required. Strangely some businesses allow their devices to only work over LAN or ethernet as opposed to on WiFi.

Microsoft / Adobe etc have all worked with Samsung to develop their apps to work as close to a desktop model as possible when using the DeX. Your experience across alternatives might just be the mobile version on a larger screen.

The alternatives are great and don't get me wrong can and do work but none have been as seamless in IMO as the DeX units.

Both DeX also have fans to cool the devices when being used.

I have spent a month or so travelling around using the DeX for presentations and it's worked flawlessly (Office365 account required to do this).

Far better than travelling around with a Laptop.

As per your preference in phone design sadly not everyone can be pleased with every design it is what it is. Chuck a case and a screen protector on them and you're good to go. Anyone who doesn't really want to invest a small amount of money into protecting their device (especially if it's used to run your business) is crazy.

In regards to HDR I am 99% sure this will be 0 effect using the DeX as i don't think the DeX will output in HDR. Will work with the Xbox One X though.

TeaLeaf

3719 posts

Uber Geek

#1988284 4-Apr-2018 16:27

restecp:

I have spent a month or so travelling around using the DeX for presentations and it's worked flawlessly (Office365 account required to do this).

Far better than travelling around with a Laptop.

You make it sound like you will be the perfect candidate for The END of Days, for android and iOS. When MS release Andromeda :-).

You dont think they both Lumia and let it die out and the most professional OS for no reason at all did you? Hahaha.

With patents still coming in I think Adromeda is months, next year away. Not one OS for 3 devices that they achieved but 1 device 1 OS. Of course there will always be higher end users requiring surface books and surface studios. :-).

Of course Continuum is still in use by those that remain die hard to the end Win10, which is a much more professional DEX like experience thats been round for a long time. But Andromeda will take us into the next age of mobile computing. Always going to get the hecklers.

But until then I think its about time Android released a continuum type experience, a good one.

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